.prel to .avi

I need to change the format from the Premiere files (prel) to avi, does anyone know how I can do it?
It's very important because none of the programs I downloaded accept the extension .prel.
Thank you.

stephyd
Thanks for the details. Very helpful. I suspect that you may be used to working with Premiere Elements 7 where there was a File Menu/Export/Movie that was available for use besides the classical Share section.
In Premiere Elements 13 there is only the Publish+Share/ for your exports to file or burn to disc. The File Menu/Export in Premiere Elements 13 is only for Title saving which you enable by selecting the title first in Project Assets.
How do you want to export your edited Timeline - to a dv.avi file, to a H.264.mov file, to a MPEG2.mpg file, or other? When ready for that type of export to file, you will go to
Publish+Share
Computer
AVI or QuickTime or MPEG or others.
Then you need to select a preset under the category that you select.
And be aware...when you get to that Publish+Share/Computer/ you will need to scroll down to list to see some choices hidden from you. Use the thin scroll bar to the right of the choices for the scrolling.
For best results, we should have details on the properties of what you put on the Timeline and select corresponding export settings.
But, first let us make sure that you are clear on the overall opportunities that are available to you in the program. Then we can zero in on the details for better.
Thanks.
ATR

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Convert prel to avi

I am new to Premier. How do I convert the PREL format into an AVI?

staninvancourver
If you have Premiere Elements 12 Timeline that you want to export to a file with an .avi file extension, then you best go
to Expert workspace, Publish+Share/Computer/AVI and set the Presets to the appropriate setting.
Appears you have been told that already. What I suspect is being overlooked is the fact that once you get to Publish+Share/Computer/AVI
you need to scroll down (using thin scroll bar to the right of the choices) to get to AVI. If you do not, all you will see is
Adobe Flash Video, MPEG, and AVCHD.
Please let us know if any of the above in this post is the information that you sought. If not, please more details.
Thank you.
ATR
Add On...we can review the details of your workflow (import, edit, export) if necessary.

Prel saved to avi

Hi,
I cannot export my prel files to avi files. It seems that the EXPORT choice on the file menu in elments 10 is greyed out. Has anyone got any ideas please...

Goozzie,
No problem.
In Adobe parlance, Save is the process of actually Saving the PREL/Project file. In PrE parlance, the terms for outputting to an AV file would be Export (prior to version 7), Share (versions 7 - 10), and Publish+Share for PrE 11.
For a bit more background on the PREL, and on the Save functions (there are basically three versions, plus AutoSave), see this article: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3392837#3392837
When working in the Project (and especially with larger, more intricate Projects), I use all three versions of Save, depending on what I need to do.
Good luck,
Hunt

How do I convert a prel file into a mpeg or avi file?

how do I convert a prel file into a mpeg or avi file?

The Elements Tutorial Links Page http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1275830 will help... click the publish/share links

How can I convert the projects files (*.prel) to a AVI or WMV format? Is that possible?

I'm actually using Adobe Premiere Elements 10.

rayssasouza
There is no "Publish+Share" in Premiere Elements 10. Publish+Share/ is the Premiere Elements 11 and 12 counterpart of Premiere Elements 10's Share/.
If you have established your Premiere Elements 10 (assumed Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit) Timeline, you can export that to an .avi file and .wmv file and many other formats from the Share area. Remember, .avi and .wmv are just file extensions that wrap the video and audio compression, so, when deciding on export choices, good to keep in mind all the properties that you seek for your export. All that being said...
General idea....
For avi file...
Share
Computer
AVI
and then you set for the appropriate Presets.=
For .wmv file
Share
Computer
Windows Media
and then you set for the appropriate Presets =
I suspect what generated your question was that you are not seeing the AVI and Windows Media choices under Share/Computer/.
If that is so, you need to use the thin scroll bar to the right of the choices and scroll down to AVI and Windows Media to see them
and others toward the bottom of the list there.
Please review and consider. Any questions or need clarification, please do not hesitate to ask.
Thank you.
ATR

Unable to load project (prel file) into Premier Elements 7.0

just installed 7.0 ..when attempting to load a project (slide show for play back on a DVD) created in Elements 3.0 .. get error that "The project could not be loaded, it may be damaged or contain outdated elements" .. I have no problem loading the same project in Elements 3.0. Also seems specific to this file, an other project create under 3.0 appears to load with out error. I should point out that the project that will not load was created in Elements 5.0 and exported over to Premier Element 3.0 to create a playable DVD .. the file that will load was created in Premier Elements 3.0 (not sure if that is significant but more information is better then less) .. any thoughts / suggestions would be appreciated ..thanks

"The project could not be loaded, it may be damaged or contain outdated elements"
Unfortunately, the last part of that error says it all. Something is used, that no longer is in PE7, or has been changed significantly. Could be an Effect, a Transition (though those usually just disappear, and the file still Imports - PrPro gives a warning, and tells you which Transition is missing, and the TimeCode of where it was used), or something else.
If you have PE3, you can do two things:
1.) finish the edit there and Export to your delivery format
2.) Export a DV-AVI file and bring THAT into PE7
Neither is quite as good as being able to Import the .PREL and work on it in PE7, but those are about the only choices that I see. Now, if you have any clue as to what the Effect (whatever) is, that's causing the problem, you *might* be able to open a COPY of the .PREL in WordPad, search for that Effect, eliminate reference to it, and then Save as a .PREL. That might be a lot of work, and might well destroy that COPY of the file - that's why you work on a COPY.
Good luck,
Hunt

Using GoPro Video in PrEl 7

After some experimentation, this is what I think I'm going to do, was looking for a sanity check:
My GoPro creates 1080P MP4 files. I chose 1080P since it's the only setting where the narrow field of view option is available on the GoPro.
1. Use GoPro's Cineform editor to convert the 1080P MP4 files to 720x1280 AVI files.
Note: this creates AVI files 4x the size of the input MP4 file. I'm guessing/hoping this won't be a problem since PrEl doesn't import/store the entire file into memory, rather opens the file and reads a frame to use for a thumbnail, and reads the video content from disk when needed. Plan to use PrEl's clip editor to extract small clips out of all these very large files anyway. It's just the small clips that wind up on the PrEl timeline and thus must be stored in memory. At least that's what I'm thinking.
2. Choose the PrEl 7 project preset: "HDV 720p 30" which matches the AVI file's frame size and rate. With this preset, the AVI files played smoothly in PrEl's clip editor and preview pane, better than the Cineform converted 884x480 AVI files.
3. For output of the finished product for playback on a PC, chose MPEG format with the "HD 720P 30" output preset. This looked good on the PC. Could optionally use output preset "NTSC DVD Widescreen" for burning to DVD.
Sound good? Am I missing any "gotchas" here?
One last question, in my test project, I just created two clips, dragged them to the timeline end to end, and applied the Cross Dissolve transition to the clips. I noticed that during the dissolve, when you can see parts of both clips in the preview monitor, only one clip is actually moving. That is, until the CTI indicator has reached the first frame of the 2nd clip on the timeline, only the 1st clip is moving eventhough you can see the first frame of the 2nd clip in the monitor, but it's just a still image. Once the CTI reaches the 2nd clip, the first clip stops moving and the 2nd clip starts moving. I would have expected to see both clips moving simultaneously throughout the dissolve. Is this expected or a sign that something is still amiss?
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Todd
[Moved to Premiere Elements Forum]

Re your question on the cross dissolve transition, note that when you drag a transition to the timeline it can be located to the left, center, or right of the cut. If you want to change it after placement you can either drag the transition box (the one with the swirly arrow) directly or through the transition properties:
Also take a look at Bill Hunts reply #7 in Timelapse movie in PSE10? It goes into detail about 'handles' that are also important to understanding unexpected results with transitions.
Cheers,
Neale
Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

Unable To Open .prel Project

I'm running Premiere Elements 9.0.3 (PE9) on Windows 7. When I launch PE9, I get the "Welcome" window with the three options: "Organize", "New Project", and "Open Project". When I click on "Organize", I can see the ".avi" files that I’ve imported, and under the "Organize" tab, I can see my Video Projects (.prel files). However, when I click on "Open Project" on the "Welcome" window and then select any of the ".prel" files, none of these projects will open any longer. The small “Load Project” window is displayed and indicates that 100% of the project is loaded, but the PE9 window remains blank. If I then attempt to open a second project from this PE9 window (File => Open Project...), then I get a pop-up window that contains the following error message: “Sorry, a serious error has occurred that requires Adobe Premiere Elements to shut down. We will attempt to save your current project.” When I click “OK” on this pop-up window, the same pop-up window appears again. When I click “OK” on this second pop-up window, Premiere Elements crashes and all of the windows close. (Note: I could open all of my “.prel” projects a couple of weeks ago -- I have no idea what changed.)

BobEZ
First, there is no Premiere Elements 9.0.3 Update version of Premiere Elements 9. There is one for Photoshop Elements 9. So, I am assuming that the 9.0.3 was a typing error and that you meant to type 9.0.1 which is the required update for Premiere Elements 9.
There is an Adobe document on damaged projects that you might want to check out.
http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements/kb/troubleshoot-damaged-projects-premiere-element s.html
But the first thoughts that come to mind on a problem such as this
a. Have you moved or deleted any of the source media that went into any of these projects?
b. Can you still open a new project in Premiere Elements 9.0.1?
c. Is your video card driver up to date according to the web site of the manufacturer of the video card? Do you have the latest version of QuickTime installed on your computer with Premiere Elements, and are you running the program as Run As Administrator or from a User Account with Administrative Privileges?
d. Have you tried to delete the Premiere Elements 9.0.1 settings file (Adobe Premiere Elements Prefs) found in the path (for Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit)
Local Disc C
Users
Owner
AppData
Roaming
Adobe
Premiere Elements
9.0
and in the 9.0 Folder is the Adobe Premiere Elements Prefs file that you delete. If that does not work to solve the problem, then delete the whole 9.0 Folder in which the Adobe Premiere Elements Prefs file exits. (Be aware that the Adobe Premiere Elements Prefs file (new) will be generated after you open Premiere Elements. Make sure that you are working with Folder Option Snow Hidden Files, Folders, and Drives active so that you can see the whole path.
Let us rule in or out the above considerations. And, if necessary, we will go into your computer environment, including optimization and the possibility of pile ups of preview files and conformed video and audio files. Are the Scratch Disks directed to a hard drive space with enough free space to accept them?/
More later.
Thanks.
ATR

How do I convert a prel file into..

How do I convert a prel file into a mp3, avi, etc. I am needing to upload the video onto youtube and the file is not compatible as a prel. I am using adobe premier elements 12.

mgroce
Given you have Premiere Elements 12/12.1. (limit...2 GB 15 minutes, even if you have an extended time account at YouTube...the extended time account applies only to file uploaded to YouTube at the YouTube web site)
If your goal is to get a Premiere Elements 12 Timeline uploaded to YouTube, you have two possible routes....
a. Publish+Share/Social Websites/YouTube and your selection of the preset that matches your Timeline properties
or
b. Publish+Share/Computer/AVCHD with one of the .mp4 preset to export the Timeline content to a file saved to the computer hard drive from where you upload it to YouTube at the YouTube Web site.
For best results, I would suggest an AVCHD.mp4 file instead of the "avi" that you mentioned. What is the video compression that goes with that "avi" wrapper?
As for .mp3, that is a audio file extension, what is your intent on that....an upload to YouTube with just music and with a black video display? YouTube strictly enforces any copyright issues, so please assure that there are none associated with these .mp3 otherwise YouTube will remove them.
Please review and consider, and then let us know if you have the information that you sought.
Thank you.
ATR

PrEl 8 slow and clips will not play in monitor window.

This is very dissapointing. I have been using PrEl 3 up till now and have been really happy with it. I decided to give V8 a whirl. First off, I am not happy with the way the whole interface has been dumbed down from 4.0 onwards. 3 seems to have more manual controls easily accessible and seems more professional. Still, it is what it is. I am bothered by the fact that this is unusable on my machine. I have tried full size avi clips from an SD camera and I have tried little bits of wmv's and phone clips. Nothing will run. It loads into the media bin, drags onto the timeline, creates the peak file as usual but when I hit spacebar to play the clip the asudio works but the video does not. It juts shows a static image of wherever the plaay head was when I hit start. If I then stop the playback and click on the timeline it goes to that spot. Now, I can grab the play head and scrub back and forth on the timeline but it just willnot play in the monitor.
I have tried running 3 and 8 side by side on each screen with the same clip in each. 3 is perfect - 8 will not work.
specs:
XP Pro 32 bit SP3
Dual Xeon 3.2 533
4gb ram
2 x 1tb Samsung hard drives.
Matrox P650 graphics
Now, later this year I will be building a new i7 rig, and it may well ne that this will run the program with no problems. But it SHOULD run on what I have right? Its old certainly but still none too shabby.

Thanks for looking in. I have tried using clips direct from my camera which is a Canon MVX3i and the same thing happens. I know that Elements is made specifically for editing videos made on camcorders but I must say that in version 3 I have been able to drag just about any kind of video file onto the timeline and edit and output it with no problem
So yes, we are talking about standard SD DV-AVI files here.
Project preset is PAL SD 4:3 as it should be.
My video card is rumming latst drivers and BIOS although its an old card.
Quicktime - yes, have latest version.
I have version 3.02 installed still and it runs perfectly.
"Have you right clicked the Monitor and selected Playback Settings to see what setting are checked there?"
External device: DV 25 720 x 576i
Aspect ratio conversion - hardware
Export device: DV 25 720 x 576i
both boxes ticked - this is the default setting and should work.
Okay - update on this: if I select External device: none then it works.
Also if I select External device: Monitor 2 60 1600 x 1200 it also works, and plays back on my secondary monitor which is very cool. But if I select DV 25 720 x 576i then it does not, although this is the setting I have on my 3.02 version as default.

How DV-AVI is DV-AVI ?

I have a lot of old (from 1988 onwards) analog Video 8 tapes. The old Panasonic stopped functioning for a long time now, but I found a company that will digitize the footage. Because I want to edit it all in Prel, the format is going to be DV-AVI.
Now before I ask this to be done: does "DV-AVI" appear in various types? That would need a specific codec if I want Prel to import and handle the files? And if so, what codec(s) should I request this company to use?
Or is "DV-AVI" always the same DV-AVI, and is there nothing to worry about?
Thanks for your comments
Felix

DV is the codec (compression system) you want with your AVI. If you're getting a DV-AVI, you're getting what you need.
Now, there are two types of DV-AVIs (called Type 1 and Type 2, interestingly). They're virtually identical in content, and only a little Microsoft quirk separates them.
In fact, pretty much only Microsoft uses Type 1's.
All of which is more than you need to know.
So, yes. The short answer is a NTSC DV-AVI is an NTSC DV-AVI. If your digitizer is creating them from your old video, you're in.

.prel location

How can I change the default location of the .prel file in premiere 12? The default is C:\Users\USER\Documents\Adobe\Premiere Elements\12.0 but that is my boot/application drive and it is almost full. I would like to put the .prel file in different locations for different projects.

Greg1004
I would look at the location of the preview files and conformed audio files in particular.
How much space is there on an alternative drive? If enough space to accept them, why not go to Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks and direct the choices there to this alternative hard drive? The Video Preview files setting there would direct the preview files to the Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files Folder location of your choice. Those preview files pile up automatically as you render the Timeline content, and they grab a lot of hard drive space. For SD project, these preview files are DV AVI and for HD project they are MPEG2.mpg (whether the rendered content is video or still).Conformed audio files also pile up quickly. See the Media Cache in Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks.
As for the project.prel, its save location is not set in Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks. It is set in the new project dialog which you can get at via File Menu/New/Project. This project file has a very small file size. I try to keep the Scratch Disks files together but my emphasis is on the preview files especially and conformed audio, and conformed video files.
Because of its regeneration into the same location, I would not focus on trying to move the conformed video from its default location. See Edit Menu/Preferences/Media and its Media Cache Database.
The following is an Adobe document which offers its Scratch Disks information.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premiereelements/using/WS887BC37E-7FDA-42c7-A513-FA3515F267E7. html#WSDC16DBC8-0046-4725-A15D-0A80EC111B07
ATR

PrEl 2 wanting to backup projectfiles

If I copy the *.prel files will that give me all I need to start working from backup if I get a harddisk failure?
or do I need to copy from any of the folders: "Encoded Files", "Adobe Premiere Elements Auto-Save", "Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files", "Media Cache Files" ?
Of Course i will also copy my DV video files and my folder with music files which will reside in same structure afterwords as before m:... etc

Jan,
As Peter says, you will need only your PREL and your Assets.
I create a folder structure for each Project and all of my work is done there. I will Copy any Assets, like SFX files, music and artwork into their respective sub-folders (so the originals are elsewhere). The only "original" material in there is my Capture DV-AVIs from tape. When I wish to archive, I just Copy the entire Project hierarchy over to an external HDD. I'll then Delete things like the Media Cache files and the CFA and PEK files (from the Audio). Now, I do Copy my AutoSave files, but that is only as a fallback, should something become corrupt. They are small (just PRELs), but I've had to go back a couple of times. I also archive and catalog my tapes and do not ever erase and re-use these, so if I loose my Capture files, I could just re-capture again. Some lost time, but no lost footage.
I have not explored the Archive function in PE, but even in Pro, I usually just do a Windows-level Copy, rather than Project Manager.
By keeping everything in a structure with my Project, it's basically a one-button process to either Copy, or Delete, when done (except for the removal of the Media Cache, etc.).
Hunt

PE 9 - Audiocompression in AVI?

Hello,
I´m using Adobe Premiere Elements 9 since two weeks now.
It´s a great software, but I´ve got some problems with codecs.
WMV is a bit slow, I don´t like MainConcept so far.
So I decided to use AVI as the container for the video.
Under "Video" I selected x264vfw, a H.264 encoder for AVI-containers (which is a little bit better than MainConcept).
But, under "Audio" I can´t select any audio encoder. There is just "Uncompressed".
Is there any way to fix that?
Does Premiere Elements 9 not support Audio-Encoders via DirectShow?
Greetings,
Computerkabel
(Oh yes, sorry for my bad english. I´m still learning it )

Welcome to the forum.
Your English is excellent!!!
The available choices for Audio will depend on the wrapper/container and CODEC, that you choose. I do not know your specific CODEC, so that could well be the limiting factor. Also, the available Audio CODEC's on your system, plus whether PrE can access and work with them.
While I have an older version of PrE, than you do, and probably different sets of CODEC's on the system, in some wrappers/containers and with some CODEC's, I only have the PCM/WAV Uncompressed Audio option, however with other wrappers/containers, and other CODEC's, I have many more options available. As an example, if I choose MOV w/ H.264, the only Audio is Uncompressed. With MS-AVI, I have a half-dozen options, but my version will not allow me to use the H.264 CODEC with that wrapper/container, though I do have many other CODEC options from DivX to Lagarith Lossless.
As for DirectShow, not sure if Premiere can use that option. I have never used it for Audio. As a bit of a history lesson, and maybe not relavent here, Premiere went with their own playback engine, leaving all DirectShow behind, with PrPro 1.0, which, IIRC, predated the first release of PrElements by about 1 year. I do not think that PrElements ever used DirectShow, but could well be wrong. I am basing my assumption only on the development timeline for PrE's "big brother," PrPro.
Now, it is possible that if one had FFDShow installed, the DirectShow Audio might be available, BUT that thought comes with a BIG WARNING!!! FFDShow has been known to really foul up both Adobe Premiere programs, PrE and PrPro, so I do not recommend installing it. It also can be a real problem to uninstall, and some users have had to resort to a full HDD reformat and reinstallation of the OS, and everything Adobe. Note: some users HAVE been able to do a simple uninstall of FFDShow, and then just a simple Registry clean, but not all. If you explore FFDShow, please do a System Restore Point, BEFORE you install it.
Wish that I could offer more than just thoughts and observations from previous versions and from PrPro, but maybe others can be of more help.
Good luck,
Hunt

Media Encoder: timeline cuts off at 3:10 for 38 min AVI

Hello,
I have searched the forums and the web in general but cannot find anyone who has either reported or solved a similar issue to mine. I thus fear I am simply doing something really stupid and just need a nudge in the right direction!
Trying to use Media Encoder to turn an AVI produced by Camtasia Studio into an MP4. The AVI is 1.8GB and loads and runs fine in Windows Media Player, start to finish. I can queue it up in Media Encoder and select all settings BUT the timeline in the Media Encoder only goes to 3 minutes 10 seconds...it just doesn't seem to 'see' the other 35 minutes of the AVI! If I execute the encoding, I get a perfectly fine MP4 of the first 3:10 of the AVI.
What am I doing wrong that is causing Media Encoder to only recognize the first 3:10 of my monster big AVI?
By the way, I am going from a Camtasia Studio 6 AVI to MP4 using Media Encoder because MP4 direct from Camtasia come out with stutters (video and audio halts) whereas this double step process has worked in the past to make good MP4s.
Any help is appreciated,
Dean

Dean,
I sometimes encounter this, when I have converted footage to DV-AVI Type II (usually from some crappy CODEC, like DivX). Usually, those converted AVI's are just fine, but on occasion, I'll get one that does just as you describe - the Duration in PrPro is truncated, and at a point similar to yours.
I have found that if I Import that DV-AVI Type II into PrElements, and then immediately Export it to the same exact format/CODEC, DV-AVI Type II, with Recompress turned OFF, the new DV-AVI Type II now has the correct Duration in PrPro.
Why? I have never found the reason. I have tested the two DV-AVI's (the one from the converter and the one run through PrE), and they match up perfectly in all respects. DupeFile Finder says they are identical. G-Spots reports the exact same specs., including the Duration. For some reason, PrPro gets the wrong Duration. This goes back to PrPro 2.0. It only happens on occasion, and I'll often have 10 files from a client's shoot, where 9 convert perfectly, but one will show this problem.
I have tried several other conversion programs, but the same odd behavior happens, seemingly randomly.
Other than that workflow, I have no real help. I also do not know how to find the files that will report the wrong Duration to PrPro - it's a crap shoot. I just check Durations, knowing that I may have one offending file, that needs to go through PrE, which ALWAYS sees the Duration correctly, and then writes that in a form that PrPro can see properly.
Good luck,
Hunt

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