Premiere CC not liking HDV footage

This has happened on two different Macs running latest Premiere CC. Trying to play Apple HDV 1080i60 (1440x1080) footage and it just starts falling apart and becomes unplayable (see screens). It especially does it when trying to fast forward through footage. The original footage plays back fine in Quicktime AND in Premiere CS6. It also plays fine on CC with my beefy Mac Pro 10.8.4. It was an older Mac Pro (10.7) and Macbook Pro (10.7) that had issues - both using Mercury software acceleraton only. They play back other codecs just fine. Any ideas?
-sam

How exactly was the footage captured?

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Hi everyone, and good morning.
Well, after many great posts, and lots of help here, I think I realize something....
If you own a camcorder that does HDV footage ( like my Canon H20 ), you must use something other than Premiere to import your original footage from the camcorder, if you wish to do any type of editing in Premiere later on.
If I understand what you have all told me that is.
For clarfication, last week, I imported my first HDV tape using Premiere, and the resulting file was a very high quality .mpeg file, however, it was not editable in Premiere at all. The audio and video were totally out of sync.
So, I then re-captured the original video from the camera into Pinnacle Studio 11, and this resulted in 2 files, a video and audio file. ( .wav and a .m2v file ). These files import into Premiere very well, and the audio and video is perfectly in sync from beginning to end.
With all this said, is there any point at all in keeping the original .mpeg file that I originally captured from the camcorder into Premiere ???
At this point, I don't see any advantage to this, but thought I would ask. I've read numerous posts that .mpeg is just not great for editing, etc,etc, so perhaps I should just delete this file, and keep going the route I'm now using ( capturing the original camcorder footage with Pinnacle Studio 11 ) (?? )
I also wonder, if one only owns Premiere, then what on earth do you do, if you have an HDV camcorder ? ( perhaps all of you that own one of these camcorders, capture the video footage from the camcorder, in a program other than Premiere ? )
Thanks for any info you may wish to give,
Dave.

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there was a recent software update that seemed to screw HDV up. Do some searching here over the last month or 2 and you'll find a bunch of posts and some possible solutions.
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Thanks for the welcome, Eddy!
I should have mentioned the Media Encoder, sorry about that. I am using the Adobe Media Encoder, but for some reason I am only getting streaming options when I try to export a quicktime file. Not HD formats. Also, I tried an mpeg 2 export but windows media player played the file without an image and after effects would not import it. I'm sure there is some obvious reason this is occuring, but I'm new to HD editing/compositing and I can't seem to get my head around it.
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I'm using XHA1's using a Canon HV20 to capture via FW to my IMAC with 10.7. I'm using Premiere Pro 6 and have been using Plural Eyes to do audio sync for the past year.
About 6 months ago when I upgraded to Plural Eyes 3 (which they don't support video thumbnail preview for HDV) I noticed my MPEG files created in Premiere Pro could not be opened in Compressor to change to Apple Pro Res or do anything else with.
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Finally, when I export my XML to the desktop and bring it back into to Premiere Pro it "squeeshes" the HDV footage into 4:3 aspect ratio. Which I then create a new Sequence, select all, copy and paste and now I have 2 sequences to keep track of.
I realize these are not earth shattering - but they would sure save precious hours over a weeks time while doing many repetive actions. Thanks for any advice.

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- Windows version crashes (I tryed initial version when WIN support was added)
- Premiere still needs XML export-import, so stereo audio becomes double mono audio
I'm still using PluralEyes version 2, which is at least working:
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OPTIONAL: I do replace all clips than with original clips from project bin, just to get stereo audio back. After I replace all clips I delete added bins/clips, because Premiere duplicate all (it will add them every time you re-import clips, instead of knowing it is already imported). So just to keep premiere project file smaller, I remove doubled clips.
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There have been a few posts on this already, but no one seems to have the solution,
Trying to capture HDV footage from premiere, but soon as tape starts "serious error" comes up and premiere crashes.
This has only become a problem today, ive captured with the exact same settings, camera, and cables before, and im about to try with a new DV tape as well, though atm still no luck
The only thing that has changed since then has been then has been premieres recent update. Not sure how to uninstall it though
Using final cut pro atm to capture and exporting it out, which is working just fine, so it seems to be an issue with premiere, not hardware.

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I tried using different fire wires and different MACS but still no joy. As a final resort I tried a different MAC without changing the Easy Setup and leaving the project on the DV Pal preset, and it worked.
Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong? If I captured the project using the DV Pal preset, wouldn't the footage be overly-compressed? Or Am I thinking about this all wrong? The footage is definitely HDV!
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HI, i just installed the update, i was really looking forward to the bug fix to detect bad frames in HDV footage, this was the update to cs3 and cs4 had it to begin with -
Improved handling of MPEG streams
The Premiere Pro 3.2.0 update provides improved handling of MPEG files. Errors in the MPEG stream can occur during recording due to tape dropouts, record start/stop glitches, timecode breaks, and a variety of other causes. Bad frames caused by these MPEG stream errors are now better identified in 3.2.0 during file indexing and playback. Because older MPEG index files and conformed audio files (those existing before the 3.2.0 update) do not take advantage of the improved MPEG handling, these files should be deleted to avoid compatibility issues.
am disapointed as this is what i have been looking forward to, i guess am still stuck with cs3.
here was the post i created 3 moths ago: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3114477

Hallo,
Ich denke ich bin hier richtig.
Frage inn Deutsch bitte um Hilfe.
Adobe CS5. v.5.02
PC CPU- i7-930.
P6X58Premium Asus Board.
Win 7 Ultimat 64Bit
Das Programm soll alle AVCHD Daten von Camcordern direkt lesen könne und auch bearbeiten können.
Dateiendung: MTS.
Erkannt als AVC/ H.264 Datei.
Diese kann CS5 nicht sauber abspielen.!
Egal ob SSD Festplatte oder SATA II- Schnellste von WD- er spielt diese MTS Daten nur
mit starken Artefakten ab.
Der Störende Ablauf wirkt Pulsierend Rythmisch, so als wüdern die Farben
in dem Video abblättern wollen und verschieben sich dabei. Erklären kann man das nicht man muss es sehen.
Wenn die Datei gerändert wird geht es wohl besser aber auch nur dann, wenn diese Datei in der Timeline Gelb oder Rot ist.
Ansonsten kann man diese datei nicht rendern.
Dann muss man die Datei über CS5 exportieren.
Ich habe das MXO2mini Matrox und muss dann ein solches Format wählen.
Der mediaplayer von Win7 kann meine MTS Datei sauberst abspielen. Kristallklar.
Die umgewandelte Datei von CS5 kann dann CS5 abspielen.
Der Mediaplayer spielt die Datei dann nur totakl Verzittert wieder, da ist keine Freude am Videoschnitt zu erleben.
Hat jemand eine Idee was das für eine Ursache hier vorliegt?
Ist das problem der artefackte schon bekannt? Ich kann leider kein englisch und ich komme auch nicht in ein deutsches Adobe forum sondern lande immer nur hier.
Für jede Idee bin ich dabkbar. RoDo

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