Premiere CS3 Render Size

So I've been using Premiere CS3, and I've been rendering videos of gaming footage just fine (1280 x 720, quicktime, h.264, 144,000 bit rate, square pixels).  It's been working just fine, to where I would render an 8 minute video, and it would be about 1-1.5 gb.  Now when I render a video that size, it's nearly 4 gb.  Any thoughts as to why the sudden jump in file size?  Nothing has changed with my settings, and I use dxtory to capture footage, and nothing has change there either.  Just don't understand...any feedback would be appreciated...

Thanks for your reply Jim.  This makes sense, but I'm not sure why the file size is jumping on me when I've been using the same settings and getting smaller results.  For example, just the other day, I rendered a 10 minute video with the same settings and it came out to about 1.5 gb.  The 8 minute video I mentioned above rendered at 4 gb. 
Funny thing is, I rendered some videos last night and they came out at the normal file size they always were.  Any idea what could have caused this spike in file size?

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    Sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time. Although I did not specifically get the out of memory error, I can only be convinced that that is the problem.
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