Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert

Has anyone tried http://cineform.blogspot.com/2008/12/mastering-24p-dvds-from-hd-using.html using Premiere CS4 and Cineform Neo Scene? In my tests the down converted Cineform SD file was corrupt. The clip only plays the first few frames and the preview goes black. Anyone had success with Cineform HDV to SD down converts with Premiere CS4?

Maybe you'll be so kind as to point me where on Cineform's site they say any of there products are CS4 compatible?
Everywhere I see they say CS4 coming "late January" or "by Febuary".
http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm
"* CS2 and CS3 are currently supported. CS4 support will be available in February 2009"
and this
http://www.cineform.com/products/Prospect.htm
"Until the time we release Prospect HD for CS4 (around the end of January 2009), all Aspect HD customers may upgrade to Prospect HD for $199 at our online store. All upgrades prior to our release for CS4 will be to Prospect HD v3. All PHD v3 upgrades will also come with a free upgrade to Prospect HD v4 (late January) that will support CS4."

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even if it was MORE off the horizon plane...it wouldnt bother me at all...
all im saying is it doesnt bother me at all....and next time keep it in mind how to level the camera etc...or else make the whole thing smaller on your delivery and crop it, rotate it etc they way you want to correct...
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What are you hoping to do with the downconverted footage?
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Sorry if this has been covered before.
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once I understood it was only a one way street per use.
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Hmm... My CS5/AVCHD 1st Impressions http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694?tstart=0 includes a link to what I built for CS5
Your computer is going to be a bit slower, but I don't see anything really obvious that would cause the output to be choppy
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Convert AVCHD to HDV http://forums.adobe.com/thread/390605?tstart=0
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I have already run that test about 4 hours prior to writing this thread. Now I'm not at this computer, but from top of my head the results were:
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Unfortunately, I am unable to install a second HDD in this notebook, because it is full. I do know it could perform better using a secondary HDD, but I have also encoded files with Adobe Premiere CS3, and that performed way better than CS4 on the same computer.

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i use Premiere CS4 and i am a leisure user.
1. when i export mpeg2, the video is 800m file sze
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2. can i edit vob directly? it is very time-consuming to convert vob to avi and then edit.
3. when i used premiere pro before, it has function to export DVD directly at premiere.
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4. i alway have corrupted cache when importing avi files. i need to remove cache and import again until it is ok
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Unfortunately, you've posted to the Premiere, and not the Premiere Pro forum. This is for a program that predates the "Pro" designation. Maybe the MOD's will move this for you, so you'll get more traffic.
Now, let's see if I can address some of your questions:
As for the MPEG-2, it is most likely that the larger file has a much higher bit-rate. What are the settings between your Exported MPEG-2 and those in the Transcoded file? That is the common difference.
As for editing .VOB's, if they are 100% DVD-compliant (very important), then CS4.1 can Import and edit. These still have the MPEG-2 compression, but should work fine. If those .VOB's were created by Encore, then changes are almost 100% certain, that you can edit them. If not, then the odds go down, and quickly. See this ARTICLE on .VOB's.
Export to DVD directly, went away with CS3. The included Encore is much, much better, and is the way to go. There is also a forum for it.
I've never had a corrupted cache, and cannot help here.
If you have DV-AVI Type II material as source, you can edit until the cows come home, and Export to DV-AVI Type II with no noticable degredation. Other formats/COCE's not so much. Here, it just depends.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Pixel Depth: 24
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Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 16 bit - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
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Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
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Movie contains 1 video track(s), 1 audio track(s) and 0 timecode track(s).
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Audio track 1 contains 1 type(s) of audio data:
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Rate = 48000.0000 Hz
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qt : Apple QuickTime (.MOV/QT)
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Created: 2010 Apr 29 03:12:15
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MD

What is your drive setup?
Read Harm on drive setup http://forums.adobe.com/thread/662972?tstart=0
- click the embedded picture in Harm's message to enlarge to reading size
- you need AT LEAST 2 drives for video editing, 3 is better
- some HD formats work better with (require) RAID
Read Hunt on Partitions http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708?tstart=0
A link with many ideas about computer setup http://forums.adobe.com/thread/436215?tstart=0
And even more hardware discussion http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum

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I have run the codec-analyzer g-spot on one of the pov.1 video files and it states that I have the proper codec installed.
Codecs in video clip:
Video: XviD ISO MPEG-4 @ 3101kbps 720*480
Audio: 0x0050 MPEG-1 Layer 2 @ 32000Hz 64 kb/s , Monophonic
Still no luck playing/editing them in Premiere CS4. Audio plays fine, video shows but frame is only updated every 4-5 seconds and not the actual frame that corresponds to that point in the audio but actually the next frame from the first one. It continues like that.
Specs:
Running Vista 32 bit and Adobe Master Collection CS4
Quad-core 2,4GHz
4GB ram (i know, only about 3 to 3,5GB utilized in 32 bit OS.)
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74GB WD Raptor as system/adobe software drive.
500GB Samsung spinpoint throuch E-sata as project drive.
The wierd thing is this:
I have a separate system drive with windows xp installed, Adobe Master collection CS3 fully updated and NO other software. (same computer)
Differance between CS3 and CS4:
CS3,no codec pack:
- Canon ixus video files WORK
- Vio Pov.1 reported as audio only, not even thumbs showing FAIL
CS3, ffdshow codec pack installed(ffdshow-rev2180_20081004_xxl)
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- Vio Pov.1: WORKS
CS4 on vista, relatively fresh install, fully updated, no codes packs.
- Canon ixus: FAIL
- Vio Pov.1: FAIL (video)
CS4, same as above with ffdshow installed:
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- Vio Pov.1: FAIL (video)
CS4, same as above with morgan mjpeg codec installed:
- Canon ixus: WORKS (yay!)
- Vio Pov.1: FAIL (obviously as it's not mjpeg)
Someone with some insight into these things, please point me in the right direction. Does anyone have experience with managing video settings within the ffdshow interface? I'm not experienced enough to tweak all the settings.
The current project Im working on is a small web clip shot with a Panasonic HDC-SD100 and the Vio Pov.1. It's a short rally on ice clip I'm looking to produce the panasonic video files are NOT supportet in CS3 even with codec packs.
CS3=
panasonic: no!
vio-pov1: yes!
CS4:
Panasonic: yes!
Vio-pov1: no!
See my problem?
I added the Canon ixus comparison since I previously had problems with it but have now solved them. Also to show that Adobe seem to have cut support for certain formats when moving on to CS4. It has taken me a looong time figuring out how to get ixus working in premiere because I'm not used to this stuff.
The ideal solution is not having to convert clips before using them so I would like to focus on that avenue. After all it finally worked with the ixus clips so I have hopes that eventually a solution can be found for the Pov.1 clips which is also more widely spread and used in proper productions.
Im very sorry for the format of this post, and the length. I just had to get it out there to see if someone can help me.
/ Johannes

Thank you Stanley and Bill for your input.
Sorry for checking the topics progress so late.
Bill, could I ask what specific software you are using for this batch conversion task?
Like I stated in my first post I am able to edit the Pov.1 material when plugging in my secondary HD with Xp and CS3 on it. So I can fiddle about with that as well but if you could supply me with the name of your software it would save me all that time swapping harddrives back and fourth. There are so many out there, would like to eliminate risk of malware and such by using the software you have.
(reminder, cs3 does not do AVCHD, #1 of many reasons why I prefer cs4)
I'm still testing various xvid/mpeg4 settings with ffdshow and other codecs, I'm still determined to find a solution, for everyone. After all, it CAN run under CS3.
I have also submitted the case to Adobe. Hoping to hear from them soon. Anyone else care to throw some thoughts in?
Thanks again for the input so far,
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A Straight answer 1) ,2) ,3) would be really nice for my emotional condition...

Roger thank you very much!
It is now starting to make sense. I have only run it once and not tried any other tricks yet (like trying to use the Source from the RAID array rather than from the C: drive)
Now rather than taking 130 seconds for encoding it is down to 25 seconds versus 8 seconds for CS3. I suspect that at least some of that is because they are using the C: drive for the source.
MPEG encoding has also a major improvement by using the rendered preview files and as matter of fact it reduced the MPEG encoding time from 75 seconds (CS3) to 57 seconds (CS4)! Maybe we will have to go back to suggesting rendering the timeline before any encoding.
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Here is what happens When i open the project in cs4 it goes through the stages below and keeps looping and indexing.
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The project is located on a local drive and i turned off indexing on the drive.
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Any specific steps that i can do to trouble shoot this problem

When one Opens a CS3 Project in CS4, there is a lot of work that needs to be done. I'd Open the Project, and go get some coffee (decaf, so you will not loose your patience). Just let it do its thing with no input to the computer at all. Come back in 5 - 10 mins. and see if all have been completed. Be patient.
If you are actually getting a loop in the Conforming, Indexing and the rest - remember be patient - then close down and reboot. Try Importing the CS3 Project into a New Project in CS4 to see if things improve.
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