Premiere cs4 freeze on timeline drag

Hey,
Basically i cant do much of anything in premiere now because when i drag items to the timeline, or when i move an item i already dragged there, the program freezes. this goes for jpgs, pngs, avi,etc.
my system is an
i7 920 on a gigabyte board,
4gb ram,
3 internal drives, one external (less than 60% full),
MS, wirelss mouse.keyboard,
focusrite saffire 6 usb sound card
nvideo 9800gt pcie card
windows 7
i have done repair installs, reinstalls, driver updates, etc.
i dont know what else to do

It can well be your setup. You have a weird memory configuration and a rather uncommon sound card.
Some suggestions... and answer at least the 16 questions at the end of the Wiki article.

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My system:
Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz
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Corsair 750W PSU
6GB DDR3
and I've upgraded from a Geforce 7800GT to an ATI XFX Radeon HD 4850.
Adobe Premiere CS4 freezes after a minute or so of playback with my ATI HD 4850. The screen literally freezes and I have no choice but to force a reboot. On my Geforce 7800GT, the playback is laggy/unresponsive but it never froze.
I've sent it in to XFX for repair previously because it wouldn't play back any HD video files. But now everything plays fine except playback in Adobe Premiere. XFX even sent me a benchmark test for Devil May Cry and because my computer passed, they refuse to RMA the card again.
I've tried EVERYTHING!
- Several different versions of the drivers: 10.4,10.3,9.11, all with no luck.
- Enable ATI Overdrive: when I auto-tuned it, it immediately crashed my computer and would do so consistently upon start-up so I had to disable it.
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This is my second ever ATI card and I must say I've been very disappointed. I have never been able to have one work 100% for even a full 24 hours!!!

I had issues with my Radeon 4670, similar but not quite the same as yours. In my case, rolling back drivers to 9.11 was the solution, but it sounds like you've already attempted that. If that hasn't solved the problem, and you're only seeing the issue after a minute or so of running PPro (my issue revealed itself immediately), I would look at a cooling/overheating problem. The newer GPUs (even though the 4000 series isn't that new) run hot even when they're not doing anything, and once you put them under any sort of load, the temperatures skyrocket. And since yours crashes during the auto-tuning, this lends more creedence to this theory; I was able to clock mine all the way up, but it's got a big honkin' aftermarket cooler on it.
I'm assuming you didn't send your whole PC in when you RMA'ed the card, so, 1) you don't know what kind of setup they tested the card in and 2) you don't know if they tested the card at all. For all practical purposes, this card should work "fine" with CS4, so the likelihood increases that there is some sort of physical defect with the card or cooling. Other folks here have a better grasp of the hardware and how to get the most from it (I'm more of a plug-it-in-and-hope-it-works kind of guy), so they might be able to tell you some ways to test the card and check its operating temperatures.

My Premiere CS4 freezes when try to edit preferences/general settings/start new project

First, sorry for my english, i'm argentinian. I got this wired error every time i try to start a new project, click on "new project" tab, and it freezes with not even show me the list of formats, then i have to force to close program. The same when i change something on preferences, and hit ACEPT, frezees. The same when try to enter to GENERAL settings of a project. Tryed everithing, reset perferences file, re-install, once i unninstall it, try the clean utility and it tell's me that is no entry in the registry with an adobe program.
MASTER COLLECTION CS4
MACHINE:
Quad core intel, Q9550
4 GB RAM
ASUS P5Q
WD BARRACUDA 1 TB + WD 160 GB FOR OS
ASUS 9600 GSO 384 MB WITH LATEST DRIVERS
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hi, no, i don't have any capture card. And plugins, just magic bullet looks 3. I tryed to delete all plugins too before with no response. I'll try the saving location thing, then tell you how it goes. In the other hand, i always do everything like this, and suddenly this happens. Holly PC's.
Cheers
FUERA DE CAMPO
Producción audiovisual
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:37:31 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: My Premiere CS4 freezes when try to edit preferences/general settings/start new project
Do you have any capture cards in the computer? For example, Blackmagic, Aja, Matrox, CineForm, etc.
If so, it's software might be causing the problem. Go to "Programs And Features" in the Vista Control Panel to remove the software for the capture card. Restart the computer and then try again.
Did you install any plug-ins for Premiere?
If so, remove them and see if the problem goes away.
Also, where are you saving your projects? Try saving one to your Desktop and see if you still have the problem. If you don't, then it could be a problem with your save location.
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I installed Adobe Premiere CS4 not too long ago as part of Master Collection and all the other programs seem to work but Premiere doesn't.
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I solved the problem!:)
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Premiere CS4 crashing when timeline opened

Everytime I open a timeline in Premiere CS4 it crashes on me.. does this happen to any
one else?

Hi,
This link shows about 5 incidents of your problem in a forum...short little posts about the same problem...
As you can see ( only takes a sec to read them ) there are a number of different " solutions" to each posters problem...
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-creative-suite/470416-premiere-cs-4-crashes.html
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I don't think a core-2 will work very well with AVCHD... you need at least an Intel i7 920... or whatever is current
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For my home hobbyist, family movies (which means that I am not trying to recreate Star Wars with video effects or many layers) AVCHD editing is "as smooth as spreading warm butter on hot toast" (also the MP4 video from wife's Flip camera)
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I hope you've found the answer already, but it sound exactly what I've run into.
My problem was that I upgraded from CS2 and then removed the suite once CS4 was running.
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Hi Ann,
The sequence length is the same in Premiere as it is when I play it in media player. They both clock in at 28:10, but the exported mpg plays differently somehow. When I play it on the sequence my show fades to black at exactly 28:00, and then I have 10 seconds of black, that’s how I want it to be. When I play the exported mpg file in media player it doesn’t fade out the show until 28:10, and there’s no 10 seconds of black at the end, it just ends after the fade out. The software appears to be stretching the video to make 28:00 of video fit into a 28:10 length file, but since 10 seconds over 28 minutes isn’t that much it’s not noticeable when I watch it.
I just tried what you said to do… I took the exported MPG and pulled it back into Premiere and played it on the timeline, and it is playing it properly in there with the 10 sec of black at the end and timing it correctly. I don’t get it! It only shows up correct in Premiere, I’ve tried in both WMP and Real player and they’re doing the same thing. But my avi and wmv version exports all play properly in WMP. Very strange!
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If your problem isn't fixed after you follow all of the steps, report back with ALL OF THE DETAILS asked for in the FINALLY section, the questions at the end of the troubleshooting link... most especially the codec used... see Question 1
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How to export timeline sequence to .vob in premiere cs4?

Hi All,
I am new to premiere cs4,
earlier i used premire 6.5 for video editing.
in premiere 6.5 for exporting video i had used procoder 2.0
after procoder instalation it comes as plug in premiere 6.5 by using procoder i can export timeline as my desired video format.
but now this procoder is not working in premiere cs4
after i installed procoder it is not showing in premiere cs4.
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I agree with John T. Normally, the creation of a VOB (Video Object) container is done in an authoring app., like Adobe Encore, which he mentioned. Up through Premiere Pro 2.0, there were limited authoring capabilities, built in. However, with PrPro CS 3, those were removed, and all authoring functions were provided with Encore, which has shipped with PrPro, ever since.
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While I do not know one, there are probably utilities available, that can wrap an MPEG-2 DVD AV file into a VOB. Still, you have Adobe Encore, and it can do that, plus a whole lot more, so just finding a program to wrap the MPEG is likely a waste of time, unless you have other, very specific needs.
To utilize Encore, you have basically three ways (as of PrPro CS 3 and up) to accomplish that:
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You can Export an MPEG-2 DVD file, then Import that into Encore.
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Hello:
I am currently trying to import a complete Premiere CS4 (version 4.2.1) project on my laptop, Windows 7 - 64bit, which doesn't have an AJA Kona 3 card installed. The detailed file specification of the source file is given further below and had been created on a system with AJA's Kona card. The source files are in an AVI wrapper, in OpenDML, with 2vuy and had been created by the AJA Kona card on a different system.
The file gets imported into Premiere, and it displays the correct file length, here of about 56mn 24s. However, I can only access the first few seconds. If I drag the video file to the timeline, I realized that every frame is present for about 2 minutes and 40 seconds, which results in about 18 seconds of the original file length. To explain it in different words - I have the same frame at position 00:00:00, 00:00:01, 00:00:02 until 02:39:24.
The original files can be properly displayed within the windows media player, which utilizes a YCbCr Codec from Drastic Technology Inc. Therefore, I strongly believe that the source files aren't corrupted. What should I do now?
BR
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General
Complete name :
H:\PZ05\116_PZ05\pz05\Captured Video\main 03.avi
Format :
AVI
Format/Info :
Audio Video Interleave
Format profile :
OpenDML
File size :
65.4 GiB
Duration :
56mn 24s
Overall bit rate :
166 Mbps
Video
ID :
0
Format :
2vuy
Codec ID :
2vuy
Duration :
56mn 24s
Bit rate :
2 539 Kbps
Width :
720 pixels
Height :
576 pixels
Display aspect ratio :
5:4
Frame rate :
25.000 fps
Standard :
PAL
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) :
0.245
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Hello Filmemacher,
AJA has a QuickTime Codec out for the Format you need. The Codec is free and the File can be played/exported through QuickTime (Pro Version only). Another Solution is the Drastic Codec Suite that has all the AJA/Kona, DVS, Optibase Codecs plus the normal ones from Windows (IYUV, I420, UYVY, YUY2, YVYU) in one Codec. The download Link has been updated with the new Versions on the Drastic Website. The Drastic Codec works for AVI in Windows and MOV for QuickTime for encoding and decoding Films. I use them myself for a long Time now without any Problems.
Please note: There are some Links to old Versions of the Drastic/Optibase Codecs in the Internet, mainly in Eastern Countrys. Stay away from them because of many Virus alerts and unstable outdated Versions.
Best regards, Mickey
Here is the Link to Download the new Version 3.4 with Vista/7/8 64 Bit Support:
http://www.drastictech.com/download_codec.html
Other Platforms supported: Windows 9x/SE/ME/NT/2K/XP/Vista/7 (all 32 Bit)
QuickTime for Windows 4/5/6/7 and Later (32 Bit)

Premiere CS4 stopped working after updates

Dell XPS 600
Pentium (r) D cpu 3.20 ghz 2.00gb ram
Geforce 7800 GTx
Premiere CS4 will load a new project but freezes after that. It won't allow me to select anything, mimimize, help, etc. This started after the last search for updates. All other programs in CS4 run fine. The scratch discs are fine. There's no external hard drive attached. Another odd occurence is now the timeline is grey and black. Don't know what that means.

You might wish to post to the Premiere Pro forum, as this is for versions of Premiere prior to the "Pro" designation.
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I thught you may had the same problem as me.
It happen to me, that I thought I got lost all my project, because I was able to open it, but I couldn't see anything in my timeline. The timeline was closed, so I went to the menu "window" and reopened "timeline", but no content and no channels were there: no video, no audio and I couldn't open new channels. So I thought I lost everything. I try to drag into the timeline my sequence (default name "sequence 01)", but nothing happen. There must be some shortcut near control+S to save, that do this.
But I found the solution. If I double click on "sequence 01" on the window with all the files contained in the project ("Project window", shortcut Shift+1), everything comes back.
I hope this can help other people looking for solutions.
here the answer I found:
So you lost the Timeline Window? Is it a bug, an oversight, or did they do it to us on purpose??
In Adobe Premiere Pro, the Timeline options disappear from the Window menu if you accidentally close the timeline window. If you lose the timeline window, you have to hunt around for a way to open it. Some of the keyboard shortcuts actually crash Premiere when the timeline window is closed.
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Hi There!. I have a serious problem with Premiere Pro CS4 that cannot let me working.
I have a project that I load, and the simply thing of copy/paste attributes from a clip to another and make a Save, freezzes Premiere, so must to kill it. But not only making this, but simply scrubbing, playing or doing little editing task. In one of these errors, a sub-windows appears, where called Droverlord. I don´t know what is this, and why appears.
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Can anyone help me?. I have very stuck with this, because cannot work with Premiere, it´s really impossible...
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Hi again, thanks for your suggestions, but I found something that can clarify...In some of the clips that I placed in the Timeline, I have put some filters from Boris Continuum Complete set. These filters worked before I change my graphics card, but now appears to hangs or freeze premiere.
I have loaded my Project and delete all the BCC filters in the clips and WORKS!.
I have loaded again the project (with the filters already applied) and directly RENDER with Adobe Media Encoder...and the filters SHOW!. So, I think that will be a Boris Continuum problem related.
I try to move in the Project in the clips affected by the BCC filters, and appears to hangs, but waiting a lot...It works!.
Arg!. I don´t know what happen here!

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