Premiere CS6 / Canon 5D / Plural Eyes / Workflow .

Hello there,
looking for workflow solutions. switching from FCP 7 - Premiere CS6.
Editing 2 canon 5D cameras. (1920 x 1080 23.976)
Audio recorded on Zoom.
Sync with Plural Eyes
Final output Web HD / ipad
Found that I need to export new master clips with audio and video synced for multi-cam to work seamlessly in Premiere CS6 (and also for preservation purposes). What should my export settings in the Media Encoder be for my new masterclips? When I select .H264 it defaults to the Android tablet setting and produces poor quality renders (pixelated and banding) and if I select use sequence settings, I get an mpeg codec that my computer does not recognize.
Any and all suggestions welcomed. Many thanks!

Now I'm intrigued. Did you ever do this with Premiere pro CS 5.5 and experience the slipping? I have on occasion experienced some slipping with very long spanned clips in 5.5 but this is understandable.
Anyway, if I wanted to export a new clip at the best quality I could, I would use Prores 422 HQ. I often do that in some projects if I'm using a lot of effects on a particular clip because Premiere Pro will just bog down. So in the sequence I set the in and out points for the work area, then just export that section as Prores 422 HQ highest render quality. Then I import that .mov and place it above the clip in the sequence and then deactivate the original clip so it doesn't get bogged down. Later if I wanted to, I could deactivate the .mov and reactivate the original to get the best quality but this type of transcode to prores is not really noticable. This is on a Mac with the prores codecs installed. If I was on a PC, I have heard good things about Cineform and DNXHD files. I would not use a long GOP codec such as any of the mpeg or H.264 flavors but if you have to use H.264 I'd use one for blu ray with a very high bitrate. I have a custom H.264 one that I use for uploads to Vimeo and Youtube that is VBR from 14-40 mbs and this results in really good results when Youtube and Vimeo do their web-ready conversions.
The slipping, however seems strange and might be a bug in CS6.

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Finally I solved the problem by myself, doing a deeper web research.
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In Premiere
go to Preferences > Media and uncheck the box "Write XMP ID to Files on Import"
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Good Luck !!!!!.....THEN, start using CC 2014.....like Patton said : "...all glory is FLEETING !!"......so is the lifespan of former PPro versions !!!!!!

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