Premiere Elements 11 consuming obscene amounts of RAM

Swear, I've forgotten where the search bar is around here . . . I'd be surprised if there wasn't already a thread about this.
This has been sort of a problem since I started using PrEl 11 two summers ago, but for some odd reason it's been becoming more and more of a problem (same computer, decent machine, I'll post the specs if you want them but I doubt my specs are the problem). Project settings are 1920x1080@30, as they have been for . . . eh, a really long time.
Picture of my Task manager, about 4.5 GB of this is going to Premiere: http://i.imgur.com/BRVNtOJ.png
Picture of it going up and down for no apparent reason: http://i.imgur.com/PXJvXPw.png
Picture of my timeline, nothing too fancy: http://i.imgur.com/tdjiIrF.png The only resources in the project ***** bin are what's on the timeline and a few miscellaneous graphics and things.
On a typical day it'll do this every 5-10 minutes and lock my computer up so that I can't even move my mouse for another 5-10 minutes, meaning I have to go find something offline to do while I'm waiting for it to do . . . um, whatever it's doing. It's quite annoying. I know there has to be a solution because loads of other people still use PrEl 11, what's the best one?
Kogaan.

>video made up of still images
Photo Scaling for Video http://forums.adobe.com/thread/450798
-Too Large May = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/879967
-And another crash report http://forums.adobe.com/thread/973935

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I need help and solutions for a Project which constantly crashes on my Adobe Premiere Elements 0.9. This program has been awesome and helped me create some projects and videos successfully, up until.... well for about 3 days ago when my latest project crashed when I had just antered and checking the storyboard etc, triggering a "Serious Error" message and then it shuts down. I try again and again, but everytime I try to put something (any sound or video etc) on the storyboard and start working etc the same damn "Serious Error" message and then allways shuts down. It's allways this same and only project (which has worked fine before) that crashes like this...
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http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements/kb/troubleshoot-damaged-projects-premiere-element s.html
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The audio is a song I copied directly from its album and CD into the computer/PC and it seems to be in WMA format in filetype.
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I might be able to provide a user mode dump of the 50% CPU adobe process. There is some call stack information and I'm wondering if developers would want this info if they don't already have a solution/fix to this bug.
Thanks for any help.

I have some more info on the hang which I've been experiencing during export/share of a project which uses an AVI as its one main clip. Adobe Premiere Elements 7 (PRE7) appears to be hanging because it's looping endlessly in ImporterAVI.prm. I'm wondering if this info can be passed onto Adobe developers and/or if I can submit this information elsewhere for such processing. I also have a process dump file which might be helpful, not to mention the original project files.
I used Process Monitor to help analyze this situation, and prior to PRE7 getting into the endless loop, it appears to be reading from the AVI file little by little, and WMEncodingHelper.exe is writing out little by little to the destination file, both of which I would expect. When PRE7 gets to the end of the import/export, Process Monitor appears to show all the aforementioned disk activity ceasing. I see neither process reading or writing. This would be normal if the share/export procedure had completed. But PRE7 is not complete. It is hung and is operating at 50% CPU utilization.
Far below in this post are technical details which may be helpful to an Adobe developer determine why the importer could get into this endless loop. In those details, there is a jump instruction, "jb ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0xf32", which will always jump if a particular compare always turns out a certain way. But in my review of the counters being compared, it never will get to a point of exiting. When I modify a flag (the carry flag) to be 0, the loop exits. When I did this, my export/share of my project completed successfully. So it was done, but for some reason, PRE7 was looping and looping in its AVI importor instead of completing the export (aka "Share").
I cannot say that this certainly indicates a bug with PRE7, but it seems to me that there's enough data for Adobe to be at least investigating this particular issue. I'm not the only person who has seen this as there was at least one other message describing the same problem which the user resolved by effectively re-creating the AVI file via a no-op import/export into and out of MovieMaker. My AVI also goes through MovieMaker, import/export, without a hitch.
In a sense, I view PRE7's "share" as essentially an import, processing of imported information (i.e., effects and transitions), and an export. It's an import of all clips into the project at the right times, a processing of all effects, and finally an export to a destination. I realize this is simplistic, but the point I'm making is I have a simple project with a single AVI, and it appears that the "import" portion of PRE7's Share option is choking on the only clip used by this project. I also don't have much but simple transitions and a beginning/ending title on the project, so I'm not thinking this use of PRE7 is much more than what I'm doing with MovieMaker when importing/exporting this AVI.
I fully agree that optimum hardware can be either required or critical for certain types of video editing, but PRE7 is a consumer program and I'm not using anything extensive about it and the symptoms are that PRE7 is looping on its import of a file other programs don't have a problem with. I already tried purchasing a 1TB external, which I'm glad I did, but I really think Adobe developers should look at this issue. There may be a problem with handling certain AVI clips used in a project when those clips come from certain sources. If there is an issue, perhaps it could warrant a fix that would make PRE7 more compatible with these other clips.
Does Adobe have a procedure for people to upload (or mail) projects and files to it so that they can troubleshoot why the importer gets into this state? I also mentioned earlier that I have a full user-mode dump of the process which may be of value to a dev. Can I submit this information anywhere?
Here are textual technical details:
Plug-in which loops: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Elements 7.0\Plug-ins\en_US\ImporterAVI.prm
The following are the instructions at the "bottom" of the loop which never ends. Below, I put "***" at the jump instruction I mentioned earler. If I force the carry flag to be 0 at that point, and the jump is skipped, the export completed successfully. Additionally, notice that [esp-0x1c] is 0x2000, and that both eax and edi are 0. When I see it loop, eax stays at 0 and never reaches 0x2000. I wonder if something about the AVI is causing values used by this importer to be such that it causes this endless loop, and if that's the case, and if such values are valid/good, I'm wondering if the importer can be fixed by being able to detect such values so as to not choke (if in fact it's an importer issue).
1239dda2 50 push eax
1239dda3 ffd1 call ecx
1239dda5 8b442424 mov eax,dword ptr [esp+24h]
1239dda9 015c2428 add dword ptr [esp+28h],ebx
1239ddad 03c7 add eax,edi
1239ddaf 83c410 add esp,10h
1239ddb2 3b44241c cmp eax,dword ptr [esp+1Ch]
1239ddb6 89442414 mov dword ptr [esp+14h],eax
; *** This is where it loops around and around.
1239ddba 0f82f2feffff jb ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0xf32 (1239dcb2)
ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0x1040:
1239ddc0 8b542420 mov edx,dword ptr [esp+20h]
1239ddc4 52 push edx
1239ddc5 e810d40000 call ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0xe45a (123ab1da)
1239ddca 83c404 add esp,4
ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0x104d:
1239ddcd 5f pop edi
1239ddce 5e pop esi
1239ddcf 5d pop ebp
1239ddd0 33c0 xor eax,eax
1239ddd2 5b pop ebx
1239ddd3 83c428 add esp,28h
1239ddd6 c3 ret
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
3195d9b8 12387545 10590f9c 27c53e00 06b35ff6 ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0x103a
3195d9ec 1239ea10 06b35ff6 00000000 27ad8a60 ImporterAVI+0x7545
3195da1c 1238aa31 06b3554b 00000000 7fdf0000 ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0x1c90
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ImporterAVI+0xaa31
[esp-1Ch]: 3195d9a0 00002000
eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=3195dbcc edx=00000000 esi=27ad8a60 edi=00000000
eip=1239ddba esp=3195d984 ebp=3c7ba50b iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe cy
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000287
ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0x103a:
1239ddba 0f82f2feffff jb ImporterAVI!xImportEntry+0xf32 (1239dcb2) [br=1]

Recording to laptop from Panasonic HVX through Premiere Elements 8

I'm going to be using a Panasonic HVX200 and tethering it to my PC laptop (It runs vista, has a 300 G hardrive and 3 Gig of RAM) via firewire. I have Adobe Premiere Elements 8 and want to record using it so I can get HD footage (720p) rather than having to record to DV tapes for Standard Def quality. I also have a 1T external hardrive that will hold the recorded video (this is attached via USB, I can't recall the specs right now and don't have it with me, so I hope this is enough info).
I have never done this before, so I have two questions:
1) Will it work? I believe it will from what I've read (I know that Final Cut Pro on a Mac can do it, but I haven't seen anything specifically about Premiere Elements so any confirmation would be greatly appreciated).
2) Are there any specifc settings I need to use to make sure Elements is capturing the video in the best format?
If further specs are needed to answer these questions, please let me know.
Thanks,
Kelly

You've got a number of challenges here, Kelly -- not the least of which is that you're trying to edit video from a $6000 professional camcorder on a $75 consumer video editor. You're much more likely to have success with a professional editor, like Premiere CS5, Vegas Pro or Final Cut.
The other challenge is that this camcorder records at a number frame rate in a number of formats, many of which are not compatible with Premiere Elements.
Still, if you're shooting in 1920x1080 30p HDV and you're connected to your computer via FireWire, you may be able to capture and edit the video if you've got your PRemiere Elements project set up for HDV. It's worth a try anyway.
According to the specs online though, the only consumer format this camcorder is capable of shooting at 30i is 720x480 (standard definition) 30i miniDV. None of the hi-def modes are standard consumer modes.
Still, this is predonimantly a DVPro camcorder. And the odds are much more in your favor if you edit its video with professional software.

Best laptop for Premiere Elements

Can you recommend a laptop for Premiere Elements.
I have PE9 and thinking about PE10.
Preferably matte screen.
UK based so Sager not really an option.
Thanks

Laptops are never best for video editing, since they're usually built for portability rather than power. They also cost about 50% more than desktops for the same amount of power.
But what type of camcorder is your video coming from?
If you are editign tape-based video, a dual-core processor and 4 gigs of RAM with a 500 gig hard drive should be adequate.
If you are working with AVCHD video, you should go for a quad core or i7 processor running Windows 7 64-bit.

Premiere Element 12 when moving video clips. HELP me Rhonda!

I am currently running Windows 7 (Professional) and I downloaded Premiere Element 12 off Tech Soup so I could make a short video for my company. I am working on a specific project and I have done a considerable amount of editing already. When I try to renegotiate the positions of various clips- an "error" message appears and then the program shuts down. Is my computer incompatible??? HELP! I don't want to lose all the work I have done. Also, I am so desperate I would be willing to buy the software all over again and put it on my mac-laptop but that would be my last resort! Has anyone else encountered this problem?
[Moved from Premiere PRO to Premiere Elements... Mod]

Jordne716
Thanks for the reply. Let us see what we can do with what you have.
When I asked about computer resources, I was asking about how much installed and available RAM the computer has, how much free hard drive space, the processor and the clock speed. Most of that you can get by right clicking the word Computer and selecting Properties.
About your alternative plans...
Your Premiere Elements 12 Windows project is not going to work on Premiere Elements Mac (whatever version)
If you export your Premiere Elements 12 project to a .mp4 file (Publish+Share/Computer/AVCHD with one of the .mp4 presets), you can import that into a Premiere Elements Mac project. However, that is a whole video which will need trimming to make significant further edits.
No guarantees, but your Premiere Elements 12 Windows project file should open in Premiere Elements 13 Windows. But, work with a copy of the Premiere Elements 12 Windows project as a safety net.
This is what I would like you to do.
Can you open that Premiere Elements 12 Windows project that shutdown when you were moving clips around in the Edit area of the program? If so, open to the Expert workspace. Have you placed audio transitions in the Timeline content? If so, remove them and determine if the problem is gone, is the same, or gets worse.
Also, what specific media were you moving around when the crash took place? If you can open the project, can you delete and re-import the file(s) in question? What Timeline tracks are you using and which were involved in this incident?
I am particularly interested in the answer to the last question to use the answer as a point to start the troubleshooting.
Please let me know if you need clarification on the above.
We will be watching for further developments and will keep close track of your posts.
ATR

Premiere Elements 8 Unresponsive & Unusable

I have received Premiere Elements 8 for reviewing and installed the package with both Photoshop & Premiere Elements on a newly installed Windows Vista Premium system. The computer has Adobe CS4 running on it with no problems so I am pretty sure it can handle Premiere 8 but does have an NVIDIA graphics card, Zotac 8800GT. This system also has Intel Quad Core Q6600 @ 2.99 GHz, 4 GB Ram and Zotac 8800 GT.
This should easily run Premiere 8 but when I start up the program after a succesful installation and updating it does the rendering in background where I cannot use the program at all. If I do anything in Premiere Elements it will go to an opaque white like the usual not responding in Windows Vista for awhile and I cannot do anything in the program. It has not crashed but just sits in the background rendering and i cannot really use the program at all.
The videos I have imported and tried to use in a project are small two to four minute AVI clips that I want to work with but the program takes a long time with background rendering. Is Adobe seriously saying I need to do a bunch of driver uninstall and install older ones or other things to get a less expensive video editing program to work on a known good system that I can render video and audio in using other programs with no problems.
I review products routinely and this system along with another, Windows Vista Business, AMD Dual Core @ 3.0 Ghz 2GB Ram, does not run Premiere Elements at all without the rendering in background that I could ever get through. Both systems are fully up to date and do not have any problems running other things like Flash, Dreamweaver and other CS4 programs as well as a host of other things like TV on PC using PCI cards.
This is a Vista program that should run fine, is anyone else having problems like this?
I also tried disabling the background rendering and turning off the analyzer in the organizer but it does not seem to have any affect to my problems.
Is anyone else with a Windows Vista and NVIDIA graphics card having problems like the program is rendering in background and not being able to be used in this mode until it has finished?

"If a person wants to edit video they need DO need to grasp what a CODEC is."
This is utter hogwash, to use a nice term. No offense meant but I think you are wrong.
Other than the double word "need," you are totally wrong. The CODEC is the building block of video, just as ISO is for still photographs. I feel that it your aversion to CODEC's, that is clouding your impressions. Also, maybe the word "need" does need to be repeated, just not as I had done.
As has been belabored above, the CODEC is the keystone to AV files, and hence to editing. Whether one wishes to learn the rudiments of these, or wishes to sweep them under the carpet, is their own choice. Obviously one that you have made beforehand.
Installing Premiere Elements and importing video and editing it does not require any knowledge of what a CODEC is or even that it exists. I remember editing video when I first got a Panasonic camcorder using a simple Arcsoft editing program that came with the camera and had no clue what a CODEC was at the time.
Again, had you read, or understood, that was easy in an earlier time - back when DV-AVI from miniDV tape was the only real way to capture video footage, and then Capture it and edit it. Nowadays, there are many different CODEC's and how they work is very important. People want to do some form of capture of YouTube material and then edit it. People want to use programs like FRAPS, or Camtasia, and then edit the footage. People want to capture footage on various cell-phone cameras, or helmet cams and edit it. All of these are very different. They need to know what a CODEC is, how it impacts the prospects of editing the resultant footage, and what they can expect. To ignore this is foolishness, and will lead to problems, regardless of which NLE is chosen.
An NLE can only contain certain capabilities, and adoption of newer technologies (read CODEC's here) takes some time and coding. In the case of Adobe, they must first decide if a new CODEC is likely to be a big enough part of their install-base to warrant the engineering efforts. All possibilities cannot be included. Some newer ones come out, after a program is released. Some need to be incorporated in an update. Two good examples of this are the RED CODEC's and the recent Panasonic Intra-Frame CODEC's. Both were included in the recent CS4 updates.
Why you have such aversion to CODEC's is beyond me. Again, they are the building blocks of AV files and editing. They've been around for over a decade, and will be around for more. Maybe it's time that you learn what they are, how they impact video playback, editing and then Export. To ignore them is an injustice to anyone reading your reviews. Again, were I to ignore Megapixels in a camera review, or DOF in a review of a lens, or system, or to ignore CODEC's in my reviews of an editing system, it would be a disservice to my readers.
Now, in a perfect world, every NLE would be able to natively edit all possible sources (read CODEC's here), and all that are likely to come about over the next decade. The world is not perfect. No NLE can possibly handle even the list of CODEC's that are available at this exact moment in time.
I do not want to get off base with arguments about CODEC's, I'm simply stating what others here have said and it does seem like the wine snob is getting off track with CODEC's.
Again, and in my defense, these are the building blocks of digital video. To think otherwise is shear folly. To ignore them is a disservice to the readers of any review. Now, many may wish that they did not exist, but they do. They are very important, whether some wish to acknowledge that, or not.
What would you advise a user to do, should they have the TechSmith CODEC in a source file? What would you suggest, should someone hand you a RED CODEC file? What would you intimate would be a good workflow, should someone hand you a BlackMagic CODEC file? Same for Xvid, or DivX. Same for an Panasonic Intra-Frame CODEC. What would you suggest? Oh, I can guess that it would be, "ignore the CODEC, as they are meaningless." Is that correct?
The other programs worked with the same video so obviously my computer has the right CODEC's otherwise they would not edit the video in the other programs.
And this proves that those other NLE's support the particular CODEC's, and that they are installed properly on your system. It does not mean that CODEC's are immaterial, as you have repeatedly suggested. The Adobe NLE's are based on a DV-AVI workflow. They make use of other CODEC's, but that does not render CODEC's moot, regardless of what you might contend. As I stated up-thread, I use CyberLink's PowerDirector for some footage, that PrE and PrPro cannot edit natively. I use that tool (and many more) to handle the CODEC's, and then Export to DV-AVI for final editing in my Adobe programs. This does not mean that the particular CODEC is immaterial, but that some NLE's either handle one better than others, or include native support for some. Adobe programs are often a bit more limited. Does this mean that they are dreck? Not in my book. I use these various programs as tools. My art comes from my camera, and my skills as an editor. I might need to use several "tools" to get me to where I can create.
Are the Adobe programs perfect? No. Do they do a good job with the proper footage and CODEC's? Yes, at least in my book. I've had the luxury of using many different NLE's, so I have a lot of experience with other NLE's. I also have extensive experience editing 16mm and 35mm film. Maybe that makes me so grateful for digital editing. That also allows me to open my mind to what it takes to do great work nowadays. I know how it was in the film-only days. One of my films was nominated for an Academy Award, and it was edited on a six-plate Moviola deck. I cannot imagine how much better that film would have been today, edited on an NLE with digital material. One will never know.
I am not trying to say that I don't want to know or don't care about what a CODEC is, I shouldn't have to in order to use this program. I compare the box requirements to my system, I meet or exceed them so my system should be able to edit video from a compatible camera. Video from a camera that can work in less expensive and even free programs should easily work in Premiere Elements regardless of knowing what a CODEC is.
But that is exactly what you have said, over and over again. What you are failing to grasp is that digital video cannot exist without CODEC's. Why you choose this platform is lost on me. I've stated many examples outside of video CODEC's, but they have been lost on you.
Just to give you a bit of background, I have 393 CODEC's installed on my workstation, and 243 (266 now) on my laptop. Why? Most are to play various files with those CODEC's. Some are for just encoding, like the HuffYUV and Lagarith, so I can transport files in a lossless format between programs. Some are so that I can edit in various NLE's. Some of these, like RealMedia, Indeo and CinePak are for older AV material, that I still may have to use. I have 4 flavors of H.264, because all CODEC's are not created equally. I also only have CODEC's from the source, and no CODEC "packs," as I want the best that I can get for me, and for my clients. Amazing! If CODEC's were not important, why on Earth would I have 393 on my workstation and 266 on my laptop? Ignore them if you wish, but you are doing a great disservice to your readers. Still, that is you choice.
Please do not confuse the issue of CODEC's with a program that does not work as advertised for many. It seems to me that high definition video is the problem and the program may be a resource hog when it gets its hands on HD content.
Well, since most of the recent CODEC's are for HD material, I'm not sure how you propose to separate these.
Now, what Adobe's marketing department might state, all depends on the CODEC's involved. Maybe they should state that that some HD material will work perfectly, and that some will not. Again, this will depend on that evil word, "CODEC."
Going back up-thread, I was taken to task, after commenting on what the "average" consumer wanted. The following statement was on what those, who DID want to edit their footage would want. That is but a small subset of the "average consumer." I find that disingenuous, at the very least. What the "average consumer" wants is to display their footage on their TV for their friends and family. The next group up wants to also post it to YouTube, or similar. Then, the next group wants to edit it - a subset of the main group. Would you not agree, now that I have broken thing out? Now, it is quite possible that a majority of your readers DO want to edit the footage, but would you not agree that a great number could care less about that aspect?
Good luck with your reviews. I hope that you are able to get PrE running on your system and can write about it. Only suggestion that I would make would be to use files that the majority of your readers are likely to use, and report on that.
Hunt

Adobe Premiere Elements Won't Start A New Project?

When I open up Premiere Elements and try to start a new project, all it shows is a black and purple line, then it just stops. I have already tried updating QuickTime, Windows 7, Nvidia Drivers, and Uninstalling and then Reinstalling Premiere elements. I am running it on a PC that has an AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six Core Proccessor, 8 GB of RAM, a Nvidia G-Force GTX 650, and i installed the program on a secondary hard drive with 761 GB of free space.

xXFIRE
What is this "secondary hard drive" on which you originally installed Premiere Elements 12? Internal or external and how formatted NTSC or FAT32?
I do not see where anyone has asked about "Scratch Disks" as they relate to your issues?
Please refer to Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks...
a. Where are the scratch disks directed and how much free hard drive space is at that location?
b. Do you have all the scratch disks categories directed to the same place? If not, do so and make sure there is lots of free hard drive space where you are pointing them to.
Please look for pile ups of preview files in the Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files Folder and pile ups of conformed audio in the Media Cache Folder. Both these folders by default are in Documents/Adobe/Premiere Elements/12.0.
Please go to Edit Menu/Preferences/Media and hit the Clean button in the Media Cache Database in that area.
As for the matter of where Premiere Elements program should be installed. Interesting question and some interesting answers. Back in a 2010 thread here on this type of subject, Akshat B (Adobe Staff) wrote
Yes you can install Premiere Elements on any other drive. For that you need to follow these steps:
1. Uninstall current copy of Premiere Elements.
2. Start the installer of Premiere ELements.
3. Choose a location on d:\ drive after choosing the default TV format.
Please keep in mind, even if you select d: drive as the install location some amount of data will get copied to C: drive.
-Akshat
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3284673
Is your Local Disc C, a SSD drive? Why is there so little free space on your Local Disc C?
More later.
Looking forward to your follow up?
ATR

Premiere Elements 11 consuming obscene amounts of RAM

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