Premiere elements: joining 2 projects

Hope you don't mind me asking here as there doesn't seem to be a "elements" forum...... I'm asking on behalf of my father who uses Premiere elements (I am a Vegas user ) so am not too up on the workings of Adobe NLE's. He has 2 edited projects he wishes to combine so he can render as one complete final piece. I just told him to copy and paste one project onto the other project's time line but he said he couldn't do this in elements..... is this true? If so my only advice to him would be to render out as an avi file or similar and import both rendered versions onto the same timeline - seems a bit long winded to me.... any other ideas?
Your help is appreciated

When doing work with several Export/Share and Import operations, I work to keep the ultimate quality, even at the cost of larger files. The more times that I will go to an intermediate, the more often I go with a Lossless CODEC, like Lagarity, or UT.
If I am ONLY going to be doing an Export/Share, for SD material, then the DV-AVI format/CODEC works OK. It is only ~ 5% compression, and with one generation, will never be noticed.
However, if one is starting with compressed material (whether SD, or HD), then outputting to a compressed CODEC, Importing that, to do additional editing, then Exporting/Sharing THAT, yet again, I feel that the Lossless CODEC's are worth both the little extra time, and the larger file sizes.
I often edit a Project, then output that to an intermediate, to be Imported into, say After Effects, where more work is done, then that AE Comp is output, and the resultant file Imported back into the editing program, for more work, only to be output again, say to DVD-Video, or BD (both of which apply pretty heavy compression). Then, I look to the intermediates.
For me, with the exception of the DV-AVI for SD material, all other compression schemes begin looking like a FAX of a FAX pretty quickly.
Steve is 100% correct in that the resultant files WILL be large, so will take more time to Export/Share, and then to Import, but PrE (and PrPro) can work smoothly with Lagarith or UT. If one is limited in HDD real estate, then they might forgo the additional quality, for smaller files. That is always the trade off.
To use an automobile analogy (always seem popular in the Adobe Forums), if one's auto runs best on 91 ocatne fuel (and the mfgr. recommends that), but one wishes to save money (i.e. file size here), they could probably get by with 87 octane fuel - but the engine will not perform at its best, mileage might well decrease, etc., and over time, some damage might be done to the engine. To me, with several intermediate steps, the Lossless CODEC's are like the 91 octane fuel.
Hunt

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