Premiere Pro 1.5 - dropped frame issue

First let me say I know this program is out dated so let's not get into that. (or maybe we will) The company I work for is small and just can't afford to upgrade. So, as I am stuck with this program there have been reoccuring issues with dropped frames.
I use a PD-150 and/or DVX-100 to shoot. I used a mini-DV deck to capture to the system via firewire. I noticed that there were several random dropped frames throughout the show. (The show being a dance recital) The big hassle is that it is a two camera show and so everytime I think I have the cameras matched up, oh gee great, there's a nother dropped frame. I then recaptured the tapes from the camera that they were shot in. Same problem, only the dropped frames were in different areas. Does this mean that the tape is not damaged? That it did not occur during filming? Is it a problem with the capturing device? We have a Matrox system. I am also capturing to an external harddrive. Firewire. But this has happened when I've used the computer hard drives for project space. So, I'm not sure if that would make a diffrence.
Basically, wtf can I do to stop dropped frames?
Is it the video card? capturing system?
Do we really just need to upgrade our software to solve the issue?
If indeed there is a solution, would I have to recapture everything in order to get rid of the dropped frames?
Help please! Thanks!
Kip

Recapture to a internal drive is your best option imo.

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