Premiere pro cc (v8.1) playback crap

Just updated to the new flat version!
And can't help noticing that my playback has been severely compromised. I loaded up the same project and the sequences that would play smoothly before are now not. Previously my processor (a xeon x5650) could handle certain specific non-gpu transitions, and now it cant. Similarly clips that had a bunch of effects on them would play smoothly but now they seem to play at a few frames per second.
Anyone else notice a performance hit with this release?

See link here and go to where it talks about 8.0.1 There's a couple of odd things you have to do including at one point having a tab open to a random page while you download/update the app on another, just read ALL the directions on those links and you'll get through it. Oh, and when you get to the link to download 8.0.1 hit the name of the link (not the part that says "Release 8.0.1) Hope this helps. We just did this a few weeks back and it worked great.
Install a previous version of any Creative Cloud application
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Could someone please confirm if Premiere Pro CS5.5 mercury playback engine will be supported on GTX 680.
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Jim,
Your comment was based upon results from the 560 Ti 448 card and that is € 240 or more. The 680 is € 440. That is 45% difference: € 440 - (0.45x440) = € 440 - € 198 = € 242
Your comparison is based on a € 200 GTX 560 model, which only achieves a score of around 120 seconds, which is 55% less expensive (€ 440 - (0.55x440) = € 440 - € 242 = € 198) and more than 225% slower (120 / 53 = 2.26)
So for 55% less expenditure, you lose more than 225% performance. That is very disappointing and would rank in the 'penny-wise-pound-foolish' savings. (But that is how your system can be ranked, at least in the past). There is another major flaw in your reasoning, you are only considering number of CUDA cores, nothing else. You are disregarding all the other aspects of the new architecture and that makes your argument very weak and flawed. You have to consider the number of cores AND the memory bus in combination. Something you obviously overlooked, but although the number of cores tripled in comparison to the 580, the memory bus was reduced to 256 bits width, a 50% reduction. That means that at best the expected performance gain could be 0.5 (memory bus) x 3 (number of cores) = 1.5 and not your 300%.
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Now if you want to go the other way, with the 680 as the baseline, you'd say that for 60% less money, you still get 80% of the performance.
For 55% less money, you get 44% of the performance on this test.

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This works out fine as I have additional footage from a Sony NX5 which is AVCHD and happy with those sequence settings - I get smooth playback from the NX5 in both the preview window and the timeline. The resulting timeline bar colour is Yellow for both footage. If the Pro Res footage is rendered on the timeline (green bar) playback is fine. The render codec is by default I-Frame Only MPEG.
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The footage in the preview window scrubs and jogs fine, but plays for about a second or two then stutters, as does the timeline. I would expect my system to easily handle the Pros Res footage - but it doesn't.
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1. With that much footage, I might set previews to render to my output size, so as to cut down on final render time.
2. 112gb! Holy Crap! I hope you're on a fast RAID drive with that! Otherwise saying you're headed up $*it creek without a paddle doesn't quite cover it... ...more like drowning in the $*it ocean.
With that much information you're almost always better off utilizing a rendered file rather than relying on your dynamic link. If playback is choppy, you need to be able to render to a drive that isn't "Busy" while you're playing from it. I've found that using separate RAID for my main project file, and my original or AE assets allows me to render out the previews to a non-busy drive, making the output faster, and the playback faster when reading it.
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so I have copied that cuda_supported_cards.txt file to the desktop and modified it and replaced it back in to C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 .
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Additional Information 1: 7113
Additional Information 2: 7113dc2716522a4a2de374964462f9ff
Additional Information 3: a6ba
Additional Information 4: a6ba96588ee3a3a2c697d7f9d3d52b05
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