Premiere Pro CS4 eats my C: drive in Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP1
I installed Premiere Pro CS4 this last weekend 11-12 April 2009.
I have a Quadcore 3.0GHz with 8Gb of RAM, a 150Gb C: drive fo rthe op sys Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP1 and programs, a 500Go D: drive for general data and a K: drive 2Tb RAID0 volume useable about 1.8Gb.
My C: drive was healthy after installation of Premiere Pro with tens of gigabytes free at least. Then I started experimenting with building projects. I put my files on a mix of the D: and K: drives especially the AVCHD video assets on the K:.
While importing these AVCHD assets I eventually got a message from Vista that the C: drive was full and I did a clean up and that gave approximetely 30Gb free, I went back to importing, in a couple of hours the 30Gb was gone, this can only be Premiere Pro CS4 eating the C: drive and never returning what it takes. This of course is a disaster precisely because it is my op sys drive and Vista will periodically want to make new restore points especially before applying downloaded updates from Microsoft. I ahve run also chkdsk and defragmenter with no effect. I think Premiere Pro is using some sort of secret work files on the C: drive somewhere and that they just accumulate, of course this would be a bug.
Support Center does not appear to let me open web support issues even though we are in the 90-day bug fix period and I have registered the product with the product key so that is another bug that gets in the way of fixing the first.
Any ideas please?
Thanks!
Peter.
Yeah, I did not take backups that often cos I did not intend putting the machine onto the net, then I got this device that said it would protect against everything by isolating my machine and making it invisible, I await the analysis by the company but it does appear not to have worked, the only thing that works is very real physical isolation and do not use the internet at all from the main machine. Like I say it simply is not confirmed yet but neither is it denied. You cannot actually go so far as to blame Adobe because stopping hackers is the job of the op sys vendor really so I blame Microsoft, the only blame for Adobe is the policy that some functions require internet connection in order to work when they know internet is not secure, so for instance if you want to use the emulators for things like these mobile phones they want you to be connected, I tried that one phone emulator and it said so, I wish they just put all documentation and all software on the DVD. I can roll back to an earlier Vista version from a USB backup disk that is always powered off, then rebuild as necessary, but I want the security firm to see if it is a trojan in fact first and to see if it can upgrade the security device and provide a roll out of the trojan's work. Right now I am still scripting the documentary and this second quarter is getting this Premiere Pro up ready for third quarter production so I can be philosophical for now, but yes later I will get more disciplined. But at least now I (almost) know the security device is not the all singing wonder they said it was. Oh well. I use a second machine too, a PS3 with Linux, that is what I am using now, this one doesn't seem to get hacked even though it is my sacrificial machine.
Message du 16/04/09 14:21
De : "don solomon"
A : "JONES Peter"
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Objet : Premiere Pro CS4 eats my C: drive in Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP1
Adobe deserves criticism for its shoddy QC, but not for maing you exposing your main machine at risk on the internet. I never do that, and I never have had a virus or malware on it--never in all the years I've been doing this. I have picked up a few on my internet machine, though, but they are easily fixed with the security scheme I use.
As for restore points possibly eating up disk space, which you alluded to earlieranother never for me. Restore points are a half assed measure at best. My security system is a full clone backup of my C drive starting the day I install and OS on it, and every time I add add a program, and every day when I am working a big complex project. Otherwise, once a week. It takes a few minutes only. That way I can restore everything in equally few minutes should anything bad happen, like poorly designed software affecting other software, a virus, malware, etc, and including drive failurewhich has happened twice over the years.
Don't get me wrong, a virus checker is very useful to a point, but real security design has to start long before you install one, especially if your machine is the heart of your business, as it is for me. What is that old saying? An ounce of prevention is worth..........
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/86776146@N03/8101475154/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/86776146@N03/8101463115/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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I can wait for 4 hours or more, Media Encoder status states Encoding but nothing moves forward. Elapsed time remains at 00:00:00, Estimated Remaining remains blank.
Although something triggered my attention when I widen Media Encoder Source Name tab. It sounds like my project from Premiere Pro is placed in a temporary folder instead of using the regular save project file folder in ...>adobe>premiere pro>4>sebsofie2010b which strange.
I try to place a picture of my issue and perhaps it will help everyone.
This picture was taken about 1 hour and half after I tried to encode the movie for the fifth time.
The status quotes "Encoding"...
Thanks in advance for any helpHello,
This is Song to an Illiad. I had to change Email address and password as I am switching provider soon.
So Ok to bypass the issue at that time, I simply transfered all files to a jumpdrive and re-did the composition at a friend house. Although my problem persist and Thank you for the Wiki link it was helpful. Sherlock free ware discovered several erronous Codec. Do not ask me why, how, when please. I do not toy around with codecs and all I do is update software but I have several software going from Adobe to Autodesk series as well as Nero Light version that came with my Dvd burner. Should I also mention I play video games when down time permits, as such I updated several time the DirectX software. Beside this, what is it called... Dvix or Xvid, well something like that... prompted me about 2 months ago to update to a newer version which I did. Finally I installed a freeware to export an avi type to another found on Cnet.com a few months ago as the file could be seen in Premiere pro but there were no Audio track seen in premiere while the client gave me his camcorder and I knew there should be an audio track, it was a sort of camcorder that records on a memory sticks which is why the camera was small. It was a canon but nothing more detailed than that. Anyway, I had the camera with no drivers whatsoever and I had a hard time to find the driver for free online which is why I found a freeware or perhaps was it a shareware or a trial (I am not sure), anyway it decoded and re-encoded the movie which it did successfully with lots of image loss quality but it was succesful. I know I deliberatly threw the shareware or trial straight in the garbage once I was done because I do not want this kind of junk on my PC. Perhaps could it be the issue with Media Encoder not able to start?!?!
Here comes a couple of texts Copy/Past & image to describe what Sherlock found
Codec Reporting Utility Output Text
Date and Time: 26-Aug-2010 23:43:54
System Information
Operating System = Unknown Professional (6.00.6002)
CPU Descriptor = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
CPU Clock Speed = 2400 Mhz.
Total Memory = 4095 Mb.
DirectX Version = 10.0
WMI Version = 6002.18005
ACM Version = 5.00.0
Video Codecs
Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
FileVersion = 3.0.1095.1
CompanyName = Adobe Systems Incorporated
FileDescription = Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
InternalName =
LegalCopyright = Copyright (C) 2007
OriginalFileName =
ProductName = Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
ProductVersion = 3,0,1095,0
Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
FileVersion = 3.0.1095.1
CompanyName = Adobe Systems Incorporated
FileDescription = Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
InternalName =
LegalCopyright = Copyright (C) 2007
OriginalFileName =
ProductName = Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
ProductVersion = 3,0,1095,0
Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
FileVersion = 3.0.1095.1
CompanyName = Adobe Systems Incorporated
FileDescription = Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
InternalName =
LegalCopyright = Copyright (C) 2007
OriginalFileName =
ProductName = Adobe DVCPRO 100 Codec
ProductVersion = 3,0,1095,0
AVI Decompressor
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
AVI Draw
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
Cinepak Codec by Radius
FileVersion = 1.10.0.11
CompanyName = Radius Inc.
FileDescription = Cinepak® Codec
InternalName = iccvid
LegalCopyright = Copyright © 1992-1995 Radius Inc., All Rights Reserved
OriginalFileName = iccvid.drv.mui
ProductName = Cinepak for Windows 32
ProductVersion = 1.10.0.0
DivX 6.9.2 Codec (2 Logical CPUs)
FileVersion = 6.9.2.26
CompanyName = DivX, Inc.
FileDescription = DivX
InternalName = DivX
LegalCopyright = Copyright © 2000-2009 DivX, Inc. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = DivX.dll
ProductName = DivX®
ProductVersion = 6.9.2.26
DivX 6.9.2 YV12 Decoder
FileVersion = 6.9.2.26
CompanyName = DivX, Inc.
FileDescription = DivX
InternalName = DivX
LegalCopyright = Copyright © 2000-2009 DivX, Inc. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = DivX.dll
ProductName = DivX®
ProductVersion = 6.9.2.26
DV Splitter
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Qdv.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Qdv.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
DV Video Decoder
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Qdv.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Qdv.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
DV Video Encoder
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Qdv.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Qdv.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
Intel IYUV codec
FileVersion = 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Intel Indeo(R) Video YUV Codec
InternalName = iyuv_32.dll
LegalCopyright = Copyright Intel Corporation 1992-1997
OriginalFileName = iyuv_32.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.0.6000.16386
Intel IYUV codec
FileVersion = 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Intel Indeo(R) Video YUV Codec
InternalName = iyuv_32.dll
LegalCopyright = Copyright Intel Corporation 1992-1997
OriginalFileName = iyuv_32.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.0.6000.16386
MainConcept MPEG Video Decoder
FileVersion = 1, 0, 0, 65
CompanyName = MainConcept AG
FileDescription = MPEG Video and Audio Decoder
InternalName = MCDSMPEG.AX
LegalCopyright = Copyright (C) 2001-2004 MainConcept AG
OriginalFileName = MCDSMPEG.AX
ProductName = MPEG Decoder
ProductVersion = 1, 0, 0, 65
Microsoft RLE
FileVersion = 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Microsoft RLE Compressor
InternalName = msrle32.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = msrle32.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.0.6000.16386
Microsoft Video 1
FileVersion = 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Microsoft Video 1 Compressor
InternalName = msvidc32.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = msvidc32.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.0.6000.16386
MJPEG Compressor
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
MJPEG Decompressor
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
MPEG Video Decoder
FileVersion = 6.6.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = DirectShow Runtime.
InternalName = Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 6.6.6000.16386
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO
FileVersion = 11.0.6001.7000 (longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Windows Media MPEG-4 Video Decoder
InternalName = mpg4dmod.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = mpg4dmod.dll
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 11.0.6001.7000
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO
FileVersion = 11.0.6001.7000 (longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Windows Media MPEG-4 Video Decoder
InternalName = mpg4dmod.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = mpg4dmod.dll
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 11.0.6001.7000
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO
FileVersion = 11.0.6001.7000 (longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Windows Media MPEG-4 S Video Decoder
InternalName = mp4sdmod.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = mp4sdmod.dll
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 11.0.6001.7000
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO
FileVersion = 11.0.6001.7000 (longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
CompanyName = Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription = Windows Media Screen Encoder
InternalName = wmvsencd.dll
LegalCopyright = © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFileName = wmvsencd.dll
ProductName = Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion = 11.0.6001.7000
Nero DVD Decoder
FileVersion = 4,11,3,7
CompanyName = Nero AG
FileDescription = MPEG-1/2/4 & AVC video decoder w/ DxVA
What should I do? Can I just reinstall the codec from my Adobe CS4 Production Suite (Without) creating more issues and problems? It seemed the Wiki hints were helpful to pin point a problem but not always at giving solution.
Thanks in advance,
Seb
P.S: Could Adobe throw a little software to download to ensure all codecs are what they should be like and prompt user to reinstall straight from our Dvds? It would be soo much easier that way.
Seb
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