Premiere Pro CS5.5 vs Elements 9

Hi,
I'm about to upgrade my Premiere version; I have an opportunity to get CS5.5 at a deep discount so that the price difference to Elements 9 doesn't matter. Having said this, I am only a home user who edits AVCHD 1080p movies to blu-ray, I'm not doing heavy sophisticated editing, and I don't see myself using more advanced features in the future. My hardware is Win 7 Pro 64bit, AMD Phenom 1090T (6x core 3.2GHz), 8GB RAM, GeForce 210 graphics.
My questions:
- How much faster is CS5.5 vs Elements 9 on the given hardware for processing AVCHD?
- What do I loose in Ease-of-use and pre-created material such as menus for CS5.5 vs. Elements 9?
- What would you recommend?
Thanks,
Alex

Hi Harm,
thanks for your response! I'm looking for a "point-and-shoot" solution, but one that has the best performance on my hardware. Simply speaking, I'd like the quickest way to produce raw AVCHD footage into a reasonably polished BD, both quick in terms of editing effort and conversion processing.
To take the DSLR comparison, while common DSLRs allow all kinds of manual manipulation, they have all the automatic modes of the point-and-shoot cameras. If CS5 would be the same, my decision would be easy. But given that CS5 apparently leaves out the "point-and-shoot" modes, I would only go for it if it is dramatically faster than Elements.
Thanks,
Alex

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Hi,
I am working on a multi-part video project that I started in Premiere Elements 8. I put in hours upon hours of editing on the first part and I found that the more I edited, the more often the program would crash (infuriating!). So I started using Premiere Pro CS5 to produce the second part, resolving to come back to the first part later. Well, I've come back around to needing this first part done, and it is just undoable in Elements (crashes every 20 seconds!). I'd like to import that project into CS5 if possible. The help documentation says this should be perfectly possible... but I'm having no luck.
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I downloaded the Premiere Elements 9 trial to see if it would be less crashy (and it is), but I'd really prefer to have all my video in one program, and CS5 does the best job (and has most of my hours invested). Elements 9 opens the "damaged" project just fine and I can edit and export normally, so why can't CS5?
Am I stuck recreating the project from the ground up in CS5?

In very general terms, a contemporary PrE Project (PREL), will Open in PrPro, with the steps that you outlined.
Now, there are all sorts of considerations, for aspects that will not likely work:
Instant Movie/Themes, as PrPro cannot read those
Some Effects that PrPro does not have, like the NewBlue FX
Some Transitions that PrPro does not have
Some Title animation Presets, that PrPro does not have
Do you have any of the above in your PrE Project? There are probably other circumstances, but those are all that come immediately to my mind.
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PREL (Adobe Premiere Elements project) (Windows Only)
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premiere...a568-8000.html
and we know that the Premiere Elements project file is a project.prel.
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http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/907/cpsid_90745.html
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http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/863/cpsid_86324.html
I am wondering if the person who wrote that into the ReadMe forgot to add "for Mac".
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ATR,
I am still using XP-Pro SP3 on all of my active machines. I am also using PrPro CS2 Production Studio, and PrE 4.0 on only my laptop. I have the recent versions of both PrPro and PrE, but am waiting for my 64-bit Win7 laptop to be built (hang up with Cleveo MoBo's, to be resolved by about May).
When I installed PrE 4.0, it DID break the full CS2 suite, but by that point, Adobe knew of the issue, and had done a KB on the problem. In my case, just doing a Repair Install for each program in the CS2 suite, did the trick, and both programs have run, side-by-side for many years, without a hiccup. However, I have NOT uninstalled any of those Adobe programs, so cannot comment on what might go wrong.
Usually, Adobe programs coexist well. However, PrPro had an issue with CS3 and CS4. If one had both PrPro CS3 and CS4 installed on the same computer, then uninstalled CS3, it took some necessary "pieces" of CS4 with it. Again, the "trick" was to do a Repair Install for CS4, and all was fixed. I have not read of any other, such issues, but they might have just gone unreported, or reported in forums, that I do not frequent.
Wish that I had more to offer, especially regarding PrPro CS 5.5 and PrE 10. I just have not explored those programs, yet - late May?
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Hardware requirements for Premiere Pro CS5 .versus Premiere Elements 9 ?

Hi
I have just started to work in Premiere Elements 9. What should it take to go up one "level" and start using Pro version (CS5) from a hardware performance point of view ?
Below are my overview specification for the machine I'm using. Will it take more power into consideration ?
Processor : Intel Core i7 930, 2,8 Ghz - 4 kernels, 8 logical processors
RAM memory : 6 GB
64 bit operating system Windows 7
HD Drive1 : Intel SSD Sa2M080 G2Gc ATA Device - 80GB
HD Drive2 : Samsung HD103SJ ATA Device - 1 TB
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BR
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CS5 is at http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/premierepro_current
What KIND of files are you going to edit?
Your system should do OK for DV and HDV but "might" struggle a bit with something like AVCHD due to only 6 gig of ram (I know, saying "only" 6 gig sounds odd, but if you go to the Premiere Pro CS5 Benchmark http://ppbm5.com/ page and review results, you will see that some people have 24 gig)
As far as C drive size, I have Win7 64bit Pro and MS Office full install and CS5 Master Collection and some odds'n'ends, and I only use 50 gig of drive space, with as much as possible in the way of "work" files set to my 2 other drives
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But, in Premier Pro CS5, that's not an option. The closest I can come is FLV Flash Video 8 And Higher, with different dimensions: 368 X 272. Unfortunately, the 368 X 272 will not fit in the space on my web page. It needs to be 320 X 240.
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Dear Steve:
I think your book about Premiere Elements 9 is great. It’s been very helpful as I try to learn the program.
I have a 64-bit Windows 7 operating system on Dell XPS laptop with 8gb of RAM. I learned yesterday that PE9 uses only 4gb of RAM or less because it is a 32-bit program.
I would like to consider moving up to Premiere Pro CS5.5 (I get an educational discount) to increase how much RAM is used. Would you please answer a few questions?
1) If I install Premiere Pro on my machine, will it be able to work with videos created in PE9?
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b) some rough spots in the narration even after rendering (I use a mike that is plugged into the mike jack with a mini-plug. I don’t use a USB mike).
c) thought bubbles bouncing around
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Thanks. Would you please respond to the e-mail as well as the forum: [email protected]
Richard

1) If I install Premiere Pro on my machine, will it be able to work with videos created in PE9?
>>You can install both Premiere Elements & PRO at the same time even launch and work with both the apps simultaneously.
2) I assume the Pro version will be faster, but will it solve some of the problems I’ve been having in PE9?
>>Pro is 64bit while PRE9 is 32bit so the scenarios where higher memory is required, PRO will be having advangate of able to use greater than 4GB RAM. However, 64bit version of PRE10 is now available. So performance of Pro & PE10 should be comparable
a) difficulty regulating audio levels even using key frames and the audio panel
>>Please state exactly what you want to do
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>> try to record using Windows Sound recorder and see if its doing the same
c) thought bubbles bouncing around
d) difficulty selecting the text box when doing titles. If I don’t hit just the right spot, it becomes the text editor and I have to try again to select the text box
>> Select the Text layer on Video track instead of text box on monitor panel.
3) Although I have 8gb of RAM, my video card has only 1gb. Will that still allow a lot of improvement in performance if I go to Premiere Pro?
>> Pls check in Pro forum. you will see improvements in the area where the application uses GPU card. I think Pro uses this for preview and few other stuff.
4) With an educational discount, I can get Premiere Pro for $345. Do you see any reason (based on what I’ve said above) not to get it?
>> No idea

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Have you tried exporting a 10 second section of the footage to see if the issue shows up once the seqeunce is actually exported from the timeline. I edit on CS5 with windows 7 pro at work quite often and have no issues so I assure you that isn't the issue. I also edit with AVCHD footage when at home and work quite freqeuntly as well so I'm positive that isn't the issue. It sounds like a GPU driver has been corrupted in the way it interacts with premiere pro. What type of GPU do you have? If it supports MPE's GPU acceleration have you tried turning it off and seeing if that makes any difference?
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