Premiere Pro CS6, large project file size - crashing etc

Working on a project in Premiere Pro CS6 - also incorporating after effects and using 2 external plugins (Beauty Box and Factory Pro FX). Project is over 500MB, lots of comps, titles etc. project seems to be corrupt on my machine. .The project crashes continually. I cannot save my work, I cannot export, I cannot create XML and media is linking incorrectly. When I pull the project in on my laptop (separate machine) which has CC 2014 running, the project is FINE. That said - I need to work off of the more powerful machine to do this job - so need to find a way to troubleshoot. Note - project opens on my partner's machine, she can save + export, etc - however the media in still linking incorrectly on her machine as well (note partner does not have the 2 plugins, beauty box and factory Pro FX) - that said, it still links to the wrong media.
We have worked out a work-arond where we pull all of the AE sequences out of Premiere and into separate AE project which has made the project workable again but we know something is WRONG and we need to fix for future ASAP.
please help!
thank you

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Greetings.
After a few browsing sessions, I haven't found direction for a specific problem within a project bloat. First and foremost; we're always backed up. I have a restoration copy of the project that I will reference herein. Check that off the list.
Numerous people have posted here and around Creative Cow with problems regarding an expanding file size using CS6; watching files go from 300mb to 2.8gb. The unfortunate problem is when the project crosses a magical line that results in an inablity to open, import, export, or access sequences contained therein. Has anyone addressed a solution to repairing Premiere CS6 save files? Reducing file bloat? I haven't seen anything (recall the FCP7 repair days... solutions existed because problems were frequent; thankfully not so bad with Adobe).
Does anyone inside the code size know the maximum project file size that Premiere can read? I created a monster... Over 200 sequences utilizing 4.5TB of footage, stretching from Red codecs to EXCam to MPEG4 and H264. And for some time, the project size was manageable. Then, it inflated. And one day, randomly stopped opening. None of the auto-saves open.
Just curious. Files aren't the problem, but the 2.8GB save file is. Machine specs // etc. are openly available if required; no bad ram, no problems with all projects (just this one beast).
Cheers,
Jon Michael Ryan

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Hi there,
I'm interested in hearing if others are having this issue and if there's a fix. I first noticed this bug in CS5 and it hasn't changed in CS6.0.1. An editor I'm working with recently discovered the problem at the expense of a project being usable the day before clients are coming in to work on cuts.
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Reading online, I found that the "Save As..." command had previously caused some kind of duplication of preview file links in the project code. I opened up our 20MB project in TextWrangler and compared it to the 840MB project's lines of code. The 20MB project had 400k lines and the 840MB project had about a million. The difference appeared to stem from links to Preview files. I wanted to try to clear those out to see if I could get the project size down but, probably because of the file size, TextWrangler crashed.
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Thank you for your response.
-I tried exporting an AVI and the file exported succesfully but with a warning "Adobe Media Encoder Could not write XMP data in output file." The file plays fine though and is over 5.5GB. So that's odd that my h.264 which is under 1GB won't fully export.
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UPDATE:
STEP 1:
Uninstalled and reinstalled Premiere - worked without crashing for the longest time since yesterday. After 1 hour of running - it crashed once again with same error message and same report (see below).
Same as before:
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
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--Updated the RED GIANT plugin "mojo" (minor coloring software)
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*** CFRelease() called with NULL ***
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Downloaded GSpot. Not sure it has been much help though. Codec status result was "undetermined". Here's the screen shot.
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