Presets with Catalog

I have the store presets with catalog box checked as I thought this would keep my extensive list of export presets within my catalog. I just moved my catalog to a new computer and the presets aren't there. Any ideas what it means to associate presets with catalog and how I can recover my presets on my new computer? Thanks!

I just moved the catalog. I checked the "Lightroom Settings" folder and it did't contain any of my custom presets. I think this is because they are located within the LR catalog. When I search for them, it finds them within the catalog itself but when I ope that same catalog on the new computer there is no sign of them within Lightroom itself. Any thoughts?

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