Pretty Lousy MP3 players from creat

hey ppl,
i bought a Muvo v200 in september, the dealer says it's such a great player that they'd give u 2 years' warranty...cool.
Now, it's December, and the MP3 player? Almost DEAD... wonderful product this Creative brand, it's gonna be my first and last from Creative......
what's the problem?
ok,
. The LCD screen is half-blurred,
2. I can't use the Equalizer, somehow it just blanks out when i enter it.
3. I can't even scroll through some songs, they just won't come out on the bloody screen
SO, wonderful, RM300 gone, when i coulda bought the same specs for RM50, even an un-branded player my sister bought was better and still kicking after 2 years.
Bah Humbug Creative !

As mentioned earlier this is a prettyy sweeping statement. There are thousands of satisfied Creative MP3 player owners but as is usually the case, 99.9% of people that have a working player will never visit the forums!
As for your player, it does sound like there was a problem with it, but just make use of your warranty - at the end of the day sometimes in electronics you get a dud device or two - this is not unique to creative but creative players may be more liable to it because they are more advanced than your average cheapo MP3 player - there is more to go wrong. But I bought a TV from sony (another reputatble brand) and it broke after 6 months, but that doesnt mean i wrote them off - infact i used my warranty and got an identical replacement because as Creative MP3 players have the best sound quality, sony have the best image quality.
If you got a replacement and that also failed, maybe it is understandable you wouldnt wish to get another of the same but to write off an entire company over one problem seems a little over the top to me

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When will we see mp3 players from Creative that utilize X FI?

"I guess a new firmware comes out only when there are sufficient complains, demands or a major problem with the current firmware. "
Yea, looks like that, but in dooing it this way they are on defence. Defence gives few happy customers because they have to ask and ask agein. When it comes the customer take the credit for it and Creative are just sitting with the blame.
If they on the other side try to figure out what is popular in the current situation, try to give their customer this, they are on "attac" situation.
This way customer will praise "the company" and feel that it takes care of it's assets. A big customer base with happy customers (never all, can never be managed) is a great asset to any firm and specialy if you like Creative want to make many diffrent models of the same product, because it's her you find the customers that always are on look for the newest and most popular thing and that is what these customer make an item, or destroy it.
Have a nice day

We demand Audible support for Zen Touch (and all new MP3 players from Creativ

I am flabbergasted!
A BIG company like Creative working with a Firmware for secure "music" files for 2 month and then don't deli'ver "audible" ready files at the same time?
(if Creative don't know, Audible books are almost a must on a MP3 player now a day and if not supported the player is absolete)
It is said in another thread that Creative don't have any income from making firmware and therfore we can't expect them to do so.
What a missunderstanding!!!
Firmware is one of the most lucrati've tools Creative have, and if not done, one for the most damaging tools they have for future sales.
Let say they put out a couple of firmware upgrade each year. Listen to the customer and try to give them what they want or make sure that the player work like it is supposed too.
Well in dooing this they have a big global customer base praising Creatives name to friends and relati'ves, and it's most likely that Creative's products will be on their next shopping list.
Do it the "Creative" way...let it go 2 month...let your customer have as little as possible and tell me that this is the way to go.
I tell you:::: the same customer base tells friends and relati'ves that this company are " not customer friendly" they might have some good product, but don't expect to much if it don't work. Creative products will almost ceartain not stand on my next shopping list!
Who will now say that developing firmware don't pay off? You have to use millons in ads just to try to repair some of the damages done by lacking of support.
Some of you have made critic to moderators and Crati've employees. Thats wrong!
The only one to blame is Creative management, if they don't know how customer relation work, then they make take a course!
Remember time with "free" entrance to every new PC is gone, now you have to start fighting for your customers.
Have a nice day

"I guess a new firmware comes out only when there are sufficient complains, demands or a major problem with the current firmware. "
Yea, looks like that, but in dooing it this way they are on defence. Defence gives few happy customers because they have to ask and ask agein. When it comes the customer take the credit for it and Creative are just sitting with the blame.
If they on the other side try to figure out what is popular in the current situation, try to give their customer this, they are on "attac" situation.
This way customer will praise "the company" and feel that it takes care of it's assets. A big customer base with happy customers (never all, can never be managed) is a great asset to any firm and specialy if you like Creative want to make many diffrent models of the same product, because it's her you find the customers that always are on look for the newest and most popular thing and that is what these customer make an item, or destroy it.
Have a nice day

What is the best Mp3 player from Creat

Good forum members,
i am looking for a mp3 player with a good fm radio too. That can receive good radio stations.

Best? It depends what your needs are, and what your budget is. For me, I prefer using a player that is powered by a AAA or AA battery, and I carry at least one spare battery. For me the most important thing is not to be without power when I want to listen to my player. For others, a larger storage capacity is more important. Do you want to view photos or video on your player? The players with the largest storage capacity(perhaps 8 gigs or more?) use a hard dri've. Those with a smaller storage capacity use flash memory(except some old models). I would not even consider a player that uses a hard dri've since a hard dri've can easily be damaged by the shock of dropping it, or by vibration.

Removing Mp3 Players from my

Hello,
I tried to find any topics about this, but couldn't find any. I was simply wondering if there is anything you have to do before removing the USB from a Creative Zen Touch 20GB? I know that with Ipods, you have to "officially" disconnect it, but I can't find any such option with my Creative one. Am I ok just removing it's
Thanks very much!

With the Touch it's OK to disconnect at any point as long as the arrows on the screen of the player are not highlighted. Might be an idea to close programmes that access it - Mediasource etc - first, to avoid the possibility of crashing your computer.

Is there a restock date on the Zen Vision M Black MP3 player from Creat

I just ordered a Zen Vision M Black through the Creative site directly (4/23/06), and I was wondering if anyone knows about how long it's going to take to get back into stock (it's listed as backordered). I emailed Creative long before I bought the item, and I haven't received a response yet. If anyone has heard anything, I'd love to hear it.
Also, let me know if I made the right decision. I'm upgrading from a 20GB Zen touch that I love, because the Vision M has more storage, and video.
-BinkkyMessage Edited by binkky on 04-24-2006 09:09 AM

it's not connected on a hub.
update audible still can't activate the zen, and it still keeps crashing the wireless adaptor, which inturns causes a stop error and crashes the system. i can't win =/

New MP3 players

anyone heard any rumors re new higher capacity flash mp3 players from Creative Labs

Still waiting for an answer....

Notes, grumblings and Questions on MP3-players in gene

. A failing of (as far as I know)
any MP3 recorder (if an MP3 player can record MP3s, I call it an MP3 recorder)
are all those missing editing options available on MiniDisk: divide, combine, name and move tracks.
Since fragmenting is of hardly any importance on flash-memory, I really don't see why they don't offer it. Unless someone knows one that does?
2.Q: How good is the quality of this "direct MP3 encoding" compared to software encoders like LAME?
I suppose it's lower ('cause of the far lower computing power and 'cause energy consumption is a FAR greater issue than on home PCs)
but just how much lower is it's
Asked differently: At what bitrate do you have to "direct encode" to achieve approx. the same quality as 80kbs CBR via LAME?
3. "OLEDs are fascinating and are rapidly evolving, but have currently (July 2005) only a life span of 0000-5000 hours or 2-5 years".
(Translated) statement from reichelt-elektronik. So, don't buy an OLED-device yet if you want something really long-lasting.
4.Equalizer: Even on a HiFi stereo system, I'd consider it more of a gimmick (unless one doesn't have a PC - then it can be useful).
If I want a song to have a stronger bass or whatever (which I never did, so far),
then I'd use an audio editing software so the song always sounds the way I prefer it, independently from the playback device.
On a portable player, this function is just a nuisance, since I have to pay attention that it is 'not acti've' or 'normal'.
In addition, often a button is wasted/reserved for this function that could be put to better use.
[So, plea for opensource firmware here that'll let me reprogram such a button. Or alternati'vely, several different firmwares by Creative that cater to different types of customers (like me).].
Far more use than an equalizer, though propably more difficult to implement, would be a
5. Volume Compressor: (A function that narrows the volume range of a song, for example from 2dB-60dB to 55dB-60dB.)
Of course, your average pop song is already heavily compressed,
but if you're listening to some opera or other classical music, it would be great if one could increase compression when there is (a lot of) ambient noise,
so one can still hear quiet passages without going deaf on the loud ones.
Q:I've read that some players have a 'Smart Volume' function. Is that a compressor?
6. Who thinks that Artist-Album-Title is a great sequence for an MP3-player?
Maybe I'm a weird guy, but I've never thought "Now, I wanna hear Madonna." or "Now, I wanna hear ABBA."
Instead, I think like "Now, I wanna hear 'Goodnight moon' " (from whoever) or "Now, 'Music' "(from Madonna) or "Now, 'The winner takes it all' " (from ABBA).
So, to me, the title is by far the Nr. criterion. What do I care who's singing it's And though with pop songs, one often can't help knowing, I've got lots of folklore, oldies and more extraordinary stuff where the Artist(s) and Albums are "Unknown" to me.
What if you want to play a particular song? You don't just have to know who the Artist is and in what Album, but also what track number the song has, because on average, your player won't be able to display more than 'Artist' and part of the 'Album' name, unless each one is on a separate line, which usually isn't the case. (I know it's scrolling, but that takes time, and the longer the names, the more. Prelistening is usually faster).
So, even to those who know 'Artist' and 'Album', the display isn't of much use since there can be dozens of songs in a particular album.
[Again, plea for opensource firmware that'll let me change the display sequence, or many different firmware versions by Creative .].
Of course, I can still have my sequence by saving the track title in the 'Artist' column, but, well... I'm not very fond of the idea!

.) Well, most mp3 players are not dedicated recorders like MiniDiscs were intended to be, namely why they don't commonly come with this functionality.
2.) Guess it depends on the chipset used for the direct encoding I would imagine. I would think it differs from model to model.
3.) Most people won't keep an mp3 player for that long in my opinion. I have had 4 mp3 players in the span of about 3 years. Not to say they've all broken (only one has in fact), but I am a fan of new technology. As are most people. I would think the majority of people have no real care for this figure.
4.) Most people do use an equaliser. It's not a gimmick. It can instantly give a boost to a song when/if it is necessary. I don't personally use one, but it gives people the simplicity of using their player to implement certain presets without having to have any other technical know-how. Most players could do with some kind of memory system, where it remembers what EQ setting you used for a specific track, but it's not 00% necessary.
Also, I've never had a player with a dedicated EQ hardware button. Not that I've wanted one. There are players with configurable buttons though. I am pretty sure iRi'ver players and Cowan's iAudio range have players with at least one configurable button.
5.) No player I know has what you request. Smart Volume also generally is an overall way of making a track seem a different volume, it doesn't analyse separate parts. You could probably achieve what you wanted by running your mp3's through something like mp3gain.
6.) My Creative Zen Sleek let you view by :
Album > Track
Artist > Album > Track
Artist > All Tracks
Genre > Artist > Album > Track
I can even go into "All Tracks" and use the find feature to grab a specific track if I need to. Isn't this more than enough to accomodate the average person?

Was gonna by myself 160gb ipod for christmas...not gonna now...backing up music today... what mp3 players out there are good besides apple and where should i store my music now?

was gonna by myself 160gb ipod for christmas...not gonna now...backing up music today... what mp3 players out there are good besides apple and where should i store my music now?

Content acquired with an Apple ID is permanently tied to that ID.
There is no reason to create a new Apple ID, frankly that will just create more issues.
It is possible to load content from multiple Apple ID's onto a single device. If the content is in the computer that the device syncs with, simply select the content and sync it.

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I'm trying to build an MP3 Player for the Android OS. I was wondering if it was possible to collect music data from the phone (ie. a list of mp3's on the phone, path locations, etc). If this isn't possible, what are my options? Would I need to scan the phone and locate all mp3 files and then store them?

I'm currently working on the same kind of project , an mp3 player for android purely for the cause of learning more Air development and for the simple fact of all the mp3 players in android market (including the payed ones) none have captured my vision (mostly because of UI arhitecture). To answer your question i will post you my bits of code that i used to get those file references. Currently my aim is to have the user select the folder where he normaly stores mp3's and the air app would then scan that folder and create a playlist (or multiple lists). So far i am using a test folder wich i created on my phones sd card (myairmusic). And the app si predefined to target that folder to search for mp3 and store their "data" in wich case is their location on sdcard, then it pushes it into an array.
public var folder:File;
public var files:Array;
public function scanFolder()
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Mp3 players - mac compatability ? (NOT itunes compatability )

hi
i want to buy a cheap mp3 player ...
btw i dont use itunes music store so i dont need any compatability
with itunes buttons and all that.
i want to use it for my audio book collection.
I'm a bit confused about the mp3 player- mac compatability debate.
Seems like when alot of people say mp3 players are bot compatable with macs - what they mean is not compatable with itunes music store downloads.
Am i correct in thinking that all mp3 players can be mounted as external drives and i could drag n drop folders of mp3s - and that this is a universal rule of thumb ?
If this is so, does it not mean that all mp3 players are effectivly compatable with macs ? If it doesnt , then why ?
Thanks for helping me work this out
d

I think, as you said, it is that they have not written any software to specifically work with the Mac. Also, even if they think it should work with a Mac, in the case of a Mass Storage Device, if they haven't specifically tested their products on the Mac, they are not going to claim any compatibility to avoid angry customers if it turns out to not work as smooth as they assumed.
I use a flash drive, 512MB Sandisk model, and previous used a 128MB Lexar version. In both cases I never really had any trouble using these in Mac and Windows systems and in fact have used the same flash drive in Win 2000, Win ME, Win XP, Mac OS X, and Mac 9.2.2 systems and it works on all of them. It shows up as a removable drive and you can drag and drop to or from the flash drive just like any other drive on the system.
Because I want the flash drive to work on both Windows and Mac systems, I don't format with a Mac format but always use DOS format (as it is called under Mac OS). If formatting on a Windows system, be sure to use Fat32 format rather than NTFS. Mac OS X.3 can read NTFS format, but not write to it. I think Tiger might be able to write to it now, but Fat32 is pretty universal and will work on all the above mentioned operating systems.
My guess is that Sony will work just fine on your Mac.
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Post for happy owners of Creative mp3 players

Welcome in the island of the happy owners of Creative mp3 players! I open this post because I see in the forum that there are many topics about unsatisfied customers. I think that many people that is satisfied of these mp3 players don't go in forums, because forum are used above all to find solution at problems!Anyway I'm happy owner of a Creative Zen 6 GB And all works fine! All is perfect! And this player is really a little wonder!The battery life (I saw that there is a post about it here) is about 8 hours using player in normal use, with songs at more than 92 kbps.
I'm really satisfied! It is the best player that I got!My list of players began with the Zen Xtra 40 GB, after the Zen Sleek Photo 20 GB and then the Zen Vision:M 60 GB. I have the little and nice Zen Stone Plus too! All work perfect!

I posted about my zen experience allready, but my list of experiences just got a little longer so I'll recapI am a music freak. with a capitol K , my very first mp3 player wasnt even creative it was he weird kind with the disc that fits in the back. only held ten songs without the disk disk could hold twenty. then I got a real job and got my first creative mp3 player. it was nomad, and nomad was good. jump dri've lookin thing with a red power supply (case the battery goes into) it weas either 256 or 52, cant remember for sure. but it sounded pretty and held my songs, and was small enough I could take it to work without arousing suspicion.nephew found it (two years old, my own fault) and separated the dri've from the power supply still have power supply, cant find dri've. So I got a muvo v00 gig it lasted virtually forever, even went through a washer and dryer trip, and still played till about a month after it got laundered. when it mysteriously powered down. I upgraded to a v+ which I love. I have had it since june and its still goin strong, even went with me on a 3 day camp out, still works great.. only problem I had was the power didnt last till the end of the third day. but all three of these sounded awesome. the v+ still does, plus Ive put a couple episodes of "psych" on it for video entertainment. I recently took it to work with me and was stocking shelves in the cooler for a few hours (about 28-32 degrees) and I learned two things. . cold temperatures do adversely effect battery life, but not horribly, and 2. we have an anti headphone policy of which I was not previously aware. nevertheless it performs great even on the job. on a side note I put the brass or copper (not sure which) connector plate back on on my muvo v00. my cousin uses it now instead of her ipod I'm so happy.
cudos creative for making players that can go camping, and even withstand a full wash and dry cycle. (machine washing and tumble drying your mp3 player is not reccomended.)

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Creative MP3 Players (Especially ZEN Touch 2) durability: satisfied?

Hello,
I'm willing to buy a ZEN Touch 2, it look so amazing!
However, what I would like to know more: durability!
Is the ZEN Touch 2 (Or any other MP3 Player from Creative) durable enough?
I'll still have the year warrantee, but I'll need to ship it in the US, it'll need to be shipped at another adress in the US, and then shipped back to me (I'm in Canada).
That'll be a though job, you know.
My first MP3 , an Archos .5 Vision, died on me when it ran out of batteries for the first time; strangely, I reloaded it, and it had trouble booting.
My second and actual MP3, Archos 2 Vision, has brokens contacts in the headphone jack... -___-
Well, it still work, but it's really annoying.
If you are a ZEN Touch 2 owner, please give me your feedback!
Thanks you very much!

Hi Gamex I have a Zen Touch 2 with GPS in the UK. In the first 3 weeks, it froze 3 or 4 times, and then finally died when downloading the Creative update to Android 2.2. You need to be aware that Creative Tech Support seem not to have yet caught up with the fact that they have a new type of MP3 player, and all the Knowledgebase articles they will refer you to are not relevant, as they deal with the older hard dri've type of player. It took me all but a fortnight of shouting to get them to authorise its return for repair/replacement, which is where it is currently. In addition, if you're going for the GPS model, advertised as 8GB, be aware it's capacity for music etc is a mere 4.gb, and any apps you download will eat into that. The way round this is to buy a big micro SDHC card (I got a 32gb one) which integrates seamlessly into the player. You can opt to put the apps on there if you so wish. That's the bad bit; the good bit is that it looks and feels great, and the touchscreen, while not as responsi've as some, is more than acceptable, to me at least. The sound quality is not as good as some other Creative players, mainly due to the fairly low spec earbuds supplied. Get some good ones, and the sound is fine, although strangely there is no equalizer facility. The FM radio, with RDS, gives quite astonishing reception on the move. You can import playlists from Media Player, but there is no option for crossfading, so you get a fairly significant gap between tracks. There are a fair selection of apps available, including an antivirus one (I see you were asking elsewhere about that) but you cannot access Android market; apps are downloaded from the Ziio website. Battery life is obviously dependant on what you are doing; wifi and GPS use will inevitably eat power before your very eyes. Using it for music was giving me around hours (less than claimed). Video playback (which is also very good) brings that down to around 4 hours. Overall I would say I was a little dissapointed with it, but that said having been without it now for nearly 3 weeks I realise how much I want it back, so it can't be all bad! Hope this helps? Regards Mike F

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