Pretty old setup, 785GM-E51, I have an odd issue (BIOS related?)

Hello, I'll just get to the point.
I have an issue, where If I start up my pc normally, just push the button and let it boot, it will 100% of the time fail, either by BSODing randomly in windows or my programs start crashing and I'll just have to do the weird way. BUT if i press the power switch on the back, clear the power from my pc, then start up the pc, reset cmos and load my settings again, it will work fine.
This started happening to me when I updated bios to 2.12 from 2.03, yes I have tried many different ways and both versions of BIOS (2.03/2.12) and it still doesn't go away. It was all working fine before the bios update..
All suggestions are welcome, although I am not in a positsion of swapping hardware at the moment.
EDIT: I am currently trying to increase NB voltage to see how it affects any of this (this also increases HT, since they are linked).

Quote from: Svet on 08-February-15, 20:05:52
test with each one of memory sticks alone
in which test model this happens?
My problem is simply put (problably) that motherboard doesn't initialize voltages correctly from the beginning, ergo I'm trying to increase CPUNB voltages to make it stable from the first cold boot.
This is usually how I need to boot : Power on -> Before POST : Power off -> Unplug AC, clear power from mobo -> Boot.
Now I have reflashed the boot the cleanest way i know (before this i tried M-flash, got a checksum error yesterday so thats not gonna happen ).
USB Bootable Tool -> Newest bios version from MSI (2.C or 2.12) -> Install from ZIP -> Reboot -> Flash bios -> Power off -> Unplug AC -> Wait a little for power to clear -> Unplug GPU (blocking jumper) -> Jumper to 2/3 -> wait 10 seconds -> Jumper to 1/2 -> Remove battery -> Holding battery against the connector in battery slot for 5 sec -> plug battery back in -> GPU back in slot -> AC on, Power ON -> Set my bios settings.
I'm gonna test with each memory stick alone now, should I keep them in their original spot or go through all the slots?

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After I reset, sometimes it's fine, but sometimes it's hang again, the interval is random. Sometimes it even hang when in the POST or when i enter BIOS setting.
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Yesterday i desperate enough and change some BIOS settings, and
surprisingly, the CPU is much cooler!
Try entering bios, hitting f6 for optimized defaults then save and exit. See if problem persists.
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As far as I remember, no, the crash / hang time i remembered is when POST / boot / startup / browsing / install app / playing games / copy file.
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Quote from: Bas on 08-March-10, 21:21:36
You do not need to disable the onboard.
As for the plug-in card, there is nothing in the BIOS to make it work 8x or 16x.
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Excellent advice on this forum. Thanks to all. Up and running fine now.
I had some small washers in my shop so I put a small washer under each of the standoffs. This raised the motherboard enough to prevent any shorting.
The advice on the toenail clippers was good. Would have done that had I read the note in time.
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