Prevent directory move on NSS volume
This issue has come up from time to time, but never annoying enough to address until now. I have a few directories on a OES 11 server running NSS volumes that are utilized as "public" folders for users and departments. The rights that are typically granted to the top-level directory are 'RWECMF' to the OU. The issue is that on occasion, a user will accidentally go mouse crazy and inadvertently move the directory to a new location, thus causing a search and find adventure to move the directory back to the proper location.
The question is, am I missing something really basic here to allow users to continue to perform what they need to do on the file system below public, but to prevent them from the ability to move the top-level directory, in this case "public?"
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 13:36:02 +0000, donaldsolberg wrote:
> This issue has come up from time to time, but never annoying enough to
> address until now. I have a few directories on a OES 11 server running
> NSS volumes that are utilized as "public" folders for users and
> departments. The rights that are typically granted to the top-level
> directory are 'RWECMF' to the OU. The issue is that on occasion, a user
> will accidentally go mouse crazy and inadvertently move the directory to
> a new location, thus causing a search and find adventure to move the
> directory back to the proper location.
Yup. It happens.
The usual answers are:
1. Take the rights away.
2. Shoot the offending users. Repeat until it stops happening.
3. Use something to "tune" the mouse action on the workstation to make
moving things accidently more difficult.
Pick one... But #2 is likely to lead to other problems.
> The question is, am I missing something really basic here to allow users
> to continue to perform what they need to do on the file system below
> public, but to prevent them from the ability to move the top-level
> directory, in this case "public?"
Sadly, no. If they have sufficient rights to do so, the server doesn't
know or care why they're moving stuff from "here" to "there". It's a
valid operation, and the server does what it does as quickly as possible.
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>
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>
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Thank yOuOriginally Posted by TFe
- Apache setup:
The browser URL for the home directory users will be http://server-ip-address/~username
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>*OES2 SP1, 2-node cluster
>*
>I had a server unmount an NSS volume with the message below in the
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>
>SAN_SERVER is the cluster pool.
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>
>
>Code:
>--------------------
> May 21 10:21:21 vishnu ncs-resourced: resourceMonitor: SAN_SERVER.monitor failed 256
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> May 21 10:21:36 vishnu kernel: isCached - Buffer's should always have an inode
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hugoAm 06.07.2011 17:36, schrieb susehoush:
> we want to install Antivirus-Services (sophos) on our cluster-nodes to
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>
> 1. Does anyone have any experience on this subject - especially on the
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After Update, cannot delete files from nss volumes
Not sure if this is the same problem caused by the SLES11 upgrade, but after running all the upgrades on an OES11 system, I can see all the nss volumes of the upgraded servers from workstations using the Novell client, and I can copy or create files on these volumes. However, I cannot delete any files, they disappear from the workstation windows explorer when they are "deleted", but an f5 promptly shows the files are still there. I can go into the server as root, and delete the files under Linux with no problems, so this part is working OK.
I am running Novell 11.1 patch 1, and this problem has only been noticeable after the update installation.
I have supervisor rights to the volumes and files, and if I additionally set all the other file rights, I am still unable to delete the files.
Anyone got any ideas?
Cheers.
ChasROriginally Posted by chas
Not sure if this is the same problem caused by the SLES11 upgrade, but after running all the upgrades on an OES11 system, I can see all the nss volumes of the upgraded servers from workstations using the Novell client, and I can copy or create files on these volumes. However, I cannot delete any files, they disappear from the workstation windows explorer when they are "deleted", but an f5 promptly shows the files are still there. I can go into the server as root, and delete the files under Linux with no problems, so this part is working OK.
I am running Novell 11.1 patch 1, and this problem has only been noticeable after the update installation.
I have supervisor rights to the volumes and files, and if I additionally set all the other file rights, I am still unable to delete the files.
Anyone got any ideas?
Cheers.
ChasR
I had a similar problem at updating with SP3 on SP4. It was similar, that permission ERASE is not applied to all trustees working through ncp in spite of the fact that it was available.
Has solved a problem that has redefined this permission for trustees on all catalogues. -
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to allow the main movie to resize.
If this is impossible to do, knowing that would also be
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