Prevent postings to dummy profit center

dear experts
1)The inheritance option that we turn on during the activation of new G/L in ecc6.0, do you know where i can turn on that option in sap4.7.
2)what are the impacts of changing a document splitting rule in sap4.7 like in rule000000001 splitting is done for the documents for customers, vendors, tax and the client wants to change it to 000000012 which is splitting for customer,vendor, tax,money,co.code clearing. what are the areas that are to be tested for this configuration change.
3)i have posted a purchase order and noticed that G/r and I/R went into the correct profit center but the payment went into dummy profit center.
so i have deleted that number range in 3keh rule and then posted an other purchase order even then the payment went into dummy profit center what could be the reason? there are no substitution rule for that document type, i have checked okb9 but this account i snot assigned to any cost centers or profit centers.
how can i know what is causing the g/l account to derive dummy profit center?
thank you
srinivas.

Hi..
Try to assgin that GL Account in 3KEH and give original correct profit center which you want to post exactly instead of Dummy profit center.
Generallly, If you dont specify the Profit center for one GL Account in Derivation Rules, System will automatically posts to Dummy profit center only..
One more option you have is.. even if you post this payment to Dummy profit center, you can very well transfer that Dummy profit center values to Correct profit center..
Thanks
Fit 4 Nothing

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During posting of accounting documents (for eg: In T-code F-02), we need to prevent documents getting posted to dummy profit-centers when I post documents with cost-centers which are un-assigned to any profit center (T-Code KS02). Instead we need to bring in to the profit-center posted by the user. We have PCA activated.
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sayeed

Postings made to a Dummy profit center

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When checking the 1KEK list (Transfer Payables & Receivables to PCS), we noticed that many postings were made on the Dummy profit center.
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Hai Linda,
Posting to dummy profit center happens only when you have not assigned the profit center details in cost center. Hence, first check the cost centers for which profit center has not been assigned using Tcode 1KE4. Here go to Assignment Monitor > Cost centers > Non assigned. For the cost centers displayed provide the profit center details wherever required.
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At my company, we have profit center as a required field on the cost center master - so when posting to a cost center, there is always a profit center.
However, if requiring a profit center on the cost center master is not an option in your case, then I'm wondering if it would work to set up a validation to check that the profit center on a posting is not the dummy.
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Hi,
As I have already explained, both the default profit center and configuring the default profit center for non assigned processes does not work for us.
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Also, my earlier question has not been answered. Does activating the dummy profit center from GL side still activate the Classic PCA ledger 8A?
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Use of dummy profit center

Hi
I am on ECC6.0 and profit center accounting is active. I have one dummy center.
Now what is the use of dummy profit center. It i because SAP will not allow me to post FI transaction with out profit center because of document splitting. Then how dummy profit center will be used

Hi,
The profit center accounting is based on the derivation rules. Derivation rules are nothing but how and to which profit center the postings are to be done.
If the derivation rules are not there, then the incomes and expenses would be posted to this dummy profit center.
At the end of the month if this dummy profit center has balances, it means that the derivation is missing and hence these balances from the dummy cost center will be assigned to the correct profit center manually.
Dummy profit center acts as a cross check to see the accuracy of the postings in to the various profit centers depending on the derivations.
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Please refer to the FAQ note 1070629.This says.
63. How can I deactivate classic Profit Center Accounting (EC-PCA) after activating the new general ledger?
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Entries posting to dummy profit center

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while doing MR21 entries is going to dummy profit center in revaluation gain or loss GL A/C instead of respective profit center of material.
For this weather we need to check / new configuration or new configuration required.
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Dear Amita,
MR21 is only posted on company code level. To derive the profit center from the material master it would be necessary to know the plant but the plant is not available during MR21 posting. The system cannot break down the profit center information knowing only the company code. In that case this is the reason why the dummy profit center is used for price difference postings.
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I am beginning the customizing of a new system (so there are no postings for the moment). A Dummy profit center is already created but I want to change it.
I try to change the master data but the case "Dummy profit Center" is not available.
How is it possible to switch the dummy profit center to another one ?
I thank you in advance for your answer.
Céline

Hi,
As per Std.SAP we need to create dummy profit center. it is not same as create profit center, KE59 though we can create the dummy profit center, for normal profit center the t.Code is KE51.
I am not able to under stand where you are changing the master data.
give the correct error what you are getting.
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Hi Profit Center Guru,
I have a lot dummy profit center posting from B/S accnts from the below kind of type:
1) Bank Account
2) Inventory Account
3) WIP Account
4) customer/vendor reconciliation account
5) Tax account
6) Accrual Income account
7) Other Manual B/S GL Posting
Could you advice? whether those dummy posting from B/S must be eleminated? and normally how to eleminate the dummy profit center posting?
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Kick

Hi,
If you want to avoid any posting to dummy profit center maintained in 3KEH, you must ensure that you have properly defined rule to derive profit center. You will have to explore the following different ways of deriving correct profit center so that system does not take dummy for posting:
1. For Inventory accounts, maintain prfoit center in material master. Make it a compulsory field in material master.
2. Make profit center as compulsory entry in FI postings through changes in field status groups.
3. Derive profit center based on cost center, cost center to be made as compulsory field in FI entries in such cases.
4. Use Derivation and substitution rules to derive profit center.
5. Use Business Area for deriving profit center.
6. For posting through MM and FI, SAP has provided Badi AC_Document, in ECC 5.0 onwards. This can be used to derive profit center.
Depending upon your settings in the system., you can choose appropriate option suitable to you, to derive profit center.
Thanks and regards,
Sanjay

About Dummy Profit Center

Could any one of you tell me about the Dummy Profit Center.
What is it?
Why it is used in CO.
When and where it is used in CO.
Thanks & Regards

A Dummy is used when you cannot assign a proper profit centre at the time of posting.
You can then move costs from the dummy to the profit centre of your choice when you want to.
When you activate Profit Centre accounting, you HAVE to assign profit centres to postings. When you can't do that while posting a document, you use a dummy. Remember that reallocation from the dummy loses the origin of the cost/revenue. You will only be moving a number and no other information with it.
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Hello
I have a scenerrio on dummy profit center
1. On Augst 2006 -- A customer invoice has been posted using FB70 and some how the customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to a the correct profit center.
2. On August 2006 -- Due to this business reversed original customer invoice using FB08 which again has customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to the correct profit center.
Origianl Invoice: Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 ( Customer Reconciliation Account)--- Dummy profit Center -- Dr. 235,000 USD
Reversal : Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 (Customer Reconciliation Account) -- Dummy profit center -- Cr. 235,000 USD
This is want we want and this is want we see in our FI entries and all are with the same posting dates.
Now some how when you look at KE5Z (Profit Center line items report) for dummy profit centers even today.
1. You see the original customer invoice showing dummy profit center on the customer account line item as Dr. 235,000 on GL 130024.
2. You see the reversal customer invoice showing correct profit center on the other line items and you dont see customer account line item that is GL130024 on this document.
3. Because of which dummy profit center is showing Dr.balance.
PCA report:
Origianl Invoice: Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 ( Customer Reconciliation Account)--- Dummy profit Center -- Dr. 235,000 USD
Reversal : Customer XYZ Ltd - No entry except the same document number with the other line items.
Could you please give us the thoughts except the PCA entry only as business dont have to have this entry. Business basically want to know the reason for not showing the customer line item on the reversal document which will knot out the dummy.
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