Preview on NTSC monitor

Since Compressor uses FCP for the Preview window, would it be possible to have the preview also show on an NTSC monitor via firewire?

From what I can tell it does. Open FCP and send compressor a clip. Make sure you see the clip in the Compressor preview window. Now go back to FCP. There is a small window open that tells the frame number Compressor is looking at, and says "close Compressor Preview to cancel." I can't use FCP until I close the Compressor preview window.

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Firewire out to NTSC monitor.....no luck

I've tried the things suggested on this board and I have no luck getting video out to my NTSC monitor. When I go to View -> Video playback, I only get two choices, "none" or "digital cinema desktop preview - main". When I selectr "external video -> All Frames, the setting doesnt stick.
I have my MacPro's Firewire going to the DV input of my DVD recorder and the analog outputs to the monitor. Could it be that FCP simply doesn't recoginze my DVD recorder as a device? Hopefully I'm just missing something here.

Chris, I've tried to do what I think you're doing now, with a different objective - getting my FCP sequence to record directly via FireWire to my Samsung DVD recorder. And that didn't work either. I think the reason is for External Video to see a DV signal, it has to be both DV in and out. Since the DV FireWire cable you're hooking up to your DVD Recorder does not allow FCP to receive a DV signal, FCP is not recognizing the Recorder as a DV source. Does that make sense? I think you need to do as Jerry suggessts and get a DV deck or camera - I've seen JVCs selling for under $200!

External NTSC Monitor - 4:3 and 16:9 Question

I'm trying to find a configuration setting in FCP 5.0 when outputting to an external NTSC monitor that will force the image to "letterbox", rather than crop to 4:3.
I have a nice Sony NTSC monitor, but it's not the model that allows switching between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ratios, unfortunately.
I don't want to have to replace this monitor at this time.
I see in the latest version of After Effects I can force the image to "letterbox" in the external monitor. I tested it, and it works perfectly.
Ironically, PhotoShop CS3 does NOT allow you to letterbox your preview to an external monitor. A widescreen formatted file appears cropped in my monitor.
So, my question is can I do this in FCP 5.0? Why am I stuck with a cropped image from a 720x480 aspect ratio? Is there a setting somewhere that will force the preview to letterbox on my monitor?
On a similar note, what will we use to replace NTSC monitors if you're shooting and editing HD?
Thanks so much.

FCP will not unsqueeze the image for you...you need a monitor that has this option.
what will we use to replace NTSC monitors if you're shooting and editing HD?
And HD monitor. But then you need some sort of HD capture card or output device (unless you are working with DVCPRO HD)...even HDV. And then you will need an HD monitor. The cheapest solution might be the Decklink Intensity and small HDTV...the intensity has HDMI out. But this only works if you have a MacPro. The MATROX MXO is next, and it connects via DVI. It can output a signal to an HDTV (component), or to an Apple Cinema Display or Dell 24" Display. That gets you broadcast quality on a computer monitor...believe it, or not!
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/MXO.php
Shane

External NTSC monitor setup

When I use an external NTSC monitor connected to an Apple DVI to video adaptor then to a Radeon 800XT video card I have many crashes. It seems like these are caused by the External monitor setup. I would to know what sort step up others are using for external video. And what kind of success you are having with them.
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Ken

I to have had the same problem, in fact, I just posted about it a few days ago. Hopefully Apple's monitoring this forum and looking at the issue. The only solution I've found is to disable the external preview, which is quite frustrating. Just a question have your crashed happened while you're working or when you perform application switching. I've only had problems when I apple-tab to another program and then do the same to get back into Motion.

DVDSP output to my NTSC Monitor?

Hey there,
I have a JVC NTSC monitor that is plugged into my AJA Kona LH. I'm having great luck using it with Motion, FCP and After Effects, as the "Output" preferences allow me to choose the Kona and my work shows up on the JVC just like it's supposed to.
Somehow, however, I do not get any option in Preferences within DVD studio pro to output to anything other than the Desktop. I have no Firewire into the JVC, which I think may be part of the issue?
Any ideas how I can do DVD simulations and output them onto my monitor?
Thanks!
Gman

Any ideas how I can do DVD simulations and output them onto my monitor?
Can't be done with Apple's new Desktop Preview thingie... it specifically requires a video card to do it, not an AJA card. It certainly does not show my Aurora Fuse card as an option.
It's not a Firewire issue. With Firewire, you have something (usually a camcorder or DV deck) that serves as the digital/analog converter. If there was a Firewire converter that decoded MPEG2 instead of DV, and if DVDSP supported it, then it would be a Firewire issue.
Basically, to do what you want, you'd need a card that provided hardware MPEG2 decoding. Apple bought Spruce's card that provided that capability when they bought Spruce, but have chosen not to offer it as a product.
The lack of true MPEG2 decoding and previewing on a broadcast monitor is often mentioned as one of the big drawbacks for using a Mac as a pro DVD authoring setup.

Getting video to play real time in an NTSC monitor question?

I’m trying to get video in my NTSC preview monitor to play real time. It will send a picture to the preview monitor but will not play real time even when timeline is rendered. I’m coming out of the back of my video card (ATI Radeon 9600) through a DVI cable to my HDTV monitor. Do I need a Firewire digital to analog converter box in order to see video in real time? I don’t want to use my camera as a pass through. Does FCE support a second monitor at all during editing?
Any info greatly appreciated!

Thank you so much for the reply! I just purchased a Firewire Datavideo DAC-6 DV to Analog Video Converter and it even has component out to the NTSC monitor. It will be here on Wednesday! Good to know I can run a preview monitor while editing. Thanks again for assisting me.

Preview and External Monitor acting bizarre

I am posting a question about a computer at work, I'm at home right now, so I don't know all the specs.
The "Preview" window in FC Studio is disabled, and when I try to run out to firewire deck (which is connected to an NTSC monitor) it only shows still images. I've tried playing with all the settings (view All Frames, Still Frames, Off; Refresh Firewire; setting external deck to different settings) Nothing is working. Not to mention that the "Preview" window shows nothing when I do this. Also, when I select "Print to Tape" it shows up on the External, but no the screen. I'm thinking there may be something wrong with the video card, but it shouldn't effect the external firewire, should it?
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Have you tried a different converter, like a camera or other box? To me, it doesn't sound like a video card problem, rather a converter box issue. Most consumer cameras over the past couple year can act as digital to analogue converters, so if you can' I'd try one of those. Besides that, it sounds like you've checked all the settings I can think of with the exception trashing the prefs.
Good luck,
-Brian

NTSC Monitor

Can I use the Apple Mini-DVI to Video Adapter,
Part Number: M9319G/A, and set FCP Audio/Video Settings to view the canvas on an NTSC monitor?

The digital to analog conversion that takes place in most camcorders, VTRs or converters is pretty much the same - the quality difference would be the same.
When you set FCP to view "External Video," you're seeing the output of FCP's Canvas or Viewer (depending on which is active). You will not see unrendered clips unless they'll play in RT .. if they are unrendered and playback in RT, you'll see the unrendered version. You will not see what something might look like - such as MPEG-2 encoding ... Firewire output isn't a crystal ball.
Keep in mind that FCP's Canvas window only displays a proxy of the full quality, which is another reason to be viewing on an external TV monitor.
-DH

Viewing FCP on NTSC MONITOR

In my days with PC I used to watch my timeling in Premier Pro on my NTSC monitor. I had a Matrox card with an outbox and connected the svideo out on the box to my monitor.
Now in the Mac Pro I have dual outputs on my ATI Raden card and all I get on my NTSC is a duplicate screen.
Is there no way to do this? No one at Apple is of any help with this.'
Thankds
bobby43

There are plenty of A/D converters on the market, but they have nothing to do with the DVI ports. Those will just give you a second monitor to mirror or extend your computer display.
What camera are you using? Most will convert the signal (FW to the camera, analogue out of the camera to the monitor) but there are some preferences in FCP that you have to set.
For converters, check out the line from Canopus.
rh

Video Output to NTSC monitor

I recently got new furniture, so of course, I unhooked everything and moved it around, and now, for some reason, I can't see video on my NTSC monitor. I know everything is hooked up correctly because I can log and capture and see video on the monitor; the video captures correctly with audio and everything. But when watching video in the timeline, there's nothing happening on the monitor. Any suggestions? Has this happened to anyone else?
I have switched out firewire cables, rebooted the computer, etc. I'm so confused!

#8 External Monitor Viewing.
Shane's Stock Answer #8:
A simple path is mac > firewire > camera or deck > rca cables > tv
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Then go View > External video > all frames
Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.
2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section
Shane

Aspect ratio of NTSC monitor display

We're working on a FCP 4.5 project that's shot 16:9, and displays with the correct widescreen aspect in the canvas window (so long as pixels are displayed square). However, when I run mirrored video through a Sony DSR11 deck to an NTSC monitor, the picture appears stretched vertically (to fill the screen). How can I correct the aspect of the display in the monitor?
Thanks
Matt Clifton

If I read right the poster is working anamorphic and wants to monitor it properly. Anything that creates a letterboxed display on 4:3 (including a deck conversion will not be monitoring the true signal. It will be a downrezzed and substantially mashed version.
If you need to truly monitor anamorphic output, just "anamorph" the monitor - see above.

IMac Extended desktop & NTSC Monitor possible?

Is there a method to jointly connect a second VGA monitor for extended desktop support along with a NTSC monitor (TV) via S-Video?

duane i beg to differ. heres a download for most newer macs to do it. http://www.rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html although be warned applecare will not cover anything screenspanning doctor screws up. not that it has. i have used it on my imac for about 5 months and my youth directors ibook g4 1ghz. its great

Viewing on external NTSC monitor

Here is my setup, I have a Dual 2.7 GHz G5 with a X800XT 256 MB video card with ADC and DVI outs. I had an older card in there with 2 DVI's connectors and one of them had a DVI to Video Adapter to the NTSC and all was fine.
When I got the new video card I had to plug the LCD into the DVI connector and I installed an older ATI Radeon PCI card to runt he NTSC monitor. Not sure what model the the older card is but it does have an svideo out and DVI out. I have tried with the NTSC monitor plugged into the DVI connector with the DVI to Video adapter and plugged directly into the svideo out. Plugged into the DVI and adaptor the video is distorted and unusable plugged in directly to the Svideo port the video works fine but I can't get Final Cut or anything else to recognize it as the NTSC video out device.
My thought is that either the PCI card I have is too old for the Apps to recognize it, or that the Apps with only work with the primary AGP graphics Card.
Has anyone else had this problem? and is there an easy solution?
I have a ADC to DVI adaptor on order to give my new video card dual DVI outputs hopping that will fix the issue.
thanks
Ken

Easy solution...don't do this. Route the signal thru your deck or camera:
#8 External Monitor Viewing.
Shane's Stock Answer #8:
A simple path is mac > firewire > camera or deck > rca cables > tv
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Then go View > External video > all frames
Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.
2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section
Shane

Livetype to External NTSC Monitor

Is it possible to view Livetype 1.2 on an NTSC monitor?
Thanks,
Jon

If your camcorder doesn't support analog-digital passthrough, you will need an analog-digital converter like the Canopus ADVC-110 to connect your NTSC monitor to your Mac. You'll connect via FireWire from your Mac to the converter, and analog (composite or s-video + audio) from the converter to your NTSC monitor.

FCP to NTSC monitor solution help required

Greetings,
Please forgive me, this is my first foray into owning a Mac.
I am getting started with Final Cut Pro, and am looking for a good way to capture analog sources, and output my FCP timeline to an NTSC monitor. My monitor takes RGB and component, and I would like to use one of those if possible.
I have looked into the AJA Kona cards, and they seem a little too robust for my needs. I won't be capturing HD SDI any time soon. The blackmagic solutions seemed interesting, the Decklink SP looked good, and the Intensity looked OK too, but I haven't seen too much talk on them. Are their any other solutions people are using to monitor their timelines? Currently I am just working with plain old DV.
Thanks so much for your advice,
David

The Intensity Pro may be just right for you with your Mac Pro. Very reasonably priced. I have the HDMI only Intensity card and it is nice. Not sure of all connections packaged with the Pro model, but good stuff. Intel units only for this product.
AJA is an awesome company and great products. I have the LHe and the tech support is the best. Like anything you do get what you pay for.
Good Luck
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