Previews and non-RAW images

If you take an image out of Aperture for further processing/retouching and return it as a psd, tif or jpg, does Aperture create another Preview for this new file, or when it's selected, are you viewing the file itself? In other words, are Previews created for other files besides RAW?

If "mantain previews" is on then it will create a new preview for the returned file.
What you see in the viewer will be first the preview and, once the image is fully loaded, the actual image.
You can find more info about previews here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304499

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    Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:13:15 -0600
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    Subject: I had to reinstall CS4 and now raw images taken with my Canon 7D will not open in ACR.
        Re: I had to reinstall CS4 and now raw images taken with my Canon 7D will not open in ACR.
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