Price Comparision in Bidding Engine

Hi Experts,
While price comparision in bidding engine , our requirement is to take into picture all price elements (for ex. gross price,discount/surcharge, freight, p& F charges, custom duty , excise, cess,sales tax(indian tax structure,etc..)
There are also some price elements which will be entered by purchaser himself based on some questions/answers with bidders. For example, there is one condition from purchaser that if bidder fails to deliver goods on delivery date , bidder will be charged fine of .5% of base price. If bidder does not agree with this condition, purchser will add 1% of base price to the price offered by vendor at time of price comparision.
We are using classic scenario.
Please let me know how to map all these in system.
Thanks & Regards,
VHP

Hi,
Price comparison for the bid is calculated based on the initial price and taxes.
It will not compare the condition for the delivery date for each bidder because you do not know whether the bidder will supply
the component as per delivery date before the bidding. So you have to take the maximum % and create a condition record and
then compare the same
Regards
Ganesh

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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/61/c3833cfa3dbc2ce10000000a114027/frameset.htm
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