Pricing schema / price detemination
Hi Folks,
Im having some issue understanding pricing in MM.
Pricing schema - Is it defined in info records under the tab "conditions" or is it defined in SPRO under " define calculation schema" ?
In "Define calculation scehma" under "control data" what do all those fields stand for ? I dont see any document online explaining the same.
When we create a standard PO which pricing procedure does the system pick up , the pricing schema for the condition record for Vendor/plant/material whihc we have entered or the one defined for standard PO "NB" ? if both combinations are entered then which one does the system give preference to?
where do we make the assignment between Document type and pricing schema?
Is the prcing in MM the same as in SD?
Can someone explain the flow step by step for MM once the org structure has been created , and now we need to have a pricing procedure for standard PO along with price determination for time dependant condition along with scales.
Thanks
Hi,
>>Pricing in MM and SD are two separate procedure with different functionalities (basically one is for procurement and other for selling)
>> Pricing in MM has to be defined in IMG>> Mat Mgt>> Purchasing>> Conditions>> Define Price determination process.. where you will find cust nodes.
>> Pricing procedure is determined on the basis of PO Doc type, Purch Org and Vendor schema group
>> In Controll data for a given pricing schema, what you find is the procedure how the final price of the item is calculated using Condition Types such as (PB00, PBXX, RA01, FRA1 so on) which you have to read and know how they help determine the price of the product in a document.
You can have lot of info available over various sap dedicated sites and SAP help as well..
Check the link below
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/75/ee1fa755c811d189900000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Hope it helps
Regards
Shiva
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hi all,
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plz help me with this....
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SANAHi
check the condition type used for the deposit amount.
What is the Condition category used for the Condition type.
Which condition type did you use in Copying to Deposit.
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I have to implement SAP on a Indian company and I'm verifying all particularity about this country (in particular tax procedures and the great number of differents tax conditions used).
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b) To define pricing schemas for India, after check with local users and using examples of documents (in particular tax invoice) actually produced, I have understood that taxes have to be applied on amount defined starting from price list, minus discounts recognized to customer plus surcharges eventually to bill (packing, transport, etc.).
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this is to inform you that,
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b) About point 2, to define which value has to be used as base amount to calculate taxes isn't a choice, but is defined depending by fiscal requirement of the country, in this case India fiscal requirement. I know that, as Lakshmipathi
write as answer on my question, exception could be, but it was important for me to understand if I have understood correctly the sequence of the pricing condition in the schema in "normal" situation.
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hope this clears your issue.
balajia -
Can we add new condition in old PO with new pricing schema
We have created new pricing schema for addition of new condition type at header level on
25/11/2010 in client server but the problem is for old purchase order client want new condition
on header condition tab.It is obvious that in old po on analysis tab it shows old pricing schema.
Is there any solution to get new condition in old Purchase order????
It means we can add new condition in old po???
Regards
Jyoti ThakurJyoti,
Let me know the basic Price Condition if its PB00 or PBXX.
Let me know how you have called the pricing schema. if you had attached it with document type and you have changed the document type, you will be required to create new PO with new doc type.
If you have taken Vendor Schema group as a criteria, then you will be required to end the validity of old pricing conditions in condition table and need to activate new conditions on this date.
Check for other basic keys like Purchasing Organization as well.
Let me know if you have any existing Source List or QA for the vendor too.
Thanks and Regards
Raghavan -
Pricing schema for purchase info records
hi guys!
does anyone knows either SAP standard got function to define pricing schema for PIR? if yes, can you please tell me how to set it up step by step?
Thanks a lot,
crystal.Hi,
there is no separate pricing schema for reading info records.
When creating PO, the system first searches for a purchasing
info record with the combination of vendor/material at purchasing
organization/plant level. If there is no such info record, the system
then search at purchasing organization level. If there is no such
info record here either, you must enter it manually.
If the purchasing info record exist, then valid conditions have
priority during price determination. If an info record does not
contain any conditions or invalid conditions, the system read from
last purchasing document in the info record and then suggest the price
from here. The price determined in this way are default values that
can be changed by the buyer if necessary.
You can save useful quotation data for a material in purchasing
info record. The info record can be created automatically by
setting the info update indicator during quotation maintenance
in the item detail.
Please first check is there any valid info record exist for this
material/vendor. You can always create/change/view it manually
via Ta ME11/ME12/Me13.
Please read also the notes 392988, 456691.
Regards,
Edit -
Hi,
I have copied the standard pricing schema and done changes according to the business requirement. I have done all other required configurations. The new schema is effective for purchase order, but while maintaining quotation still the standard schema's conditions only appearing in quotation.
Please advice
Regards,
SattujHi,
Check your Gross price condition type in M/06- remove the pricing procedure in it and maintain your new pricing procedure in that field. Or you can define your new supplementary pricing procedure with required conditions and maintain in the base price condition. Then you can able to maintain your other conditions in Quotation or inforecord.
Umakanth R -
Hi Friends,
Can anyone provide me a real good material but easy to understand how MM pricing schema works? I need to understand the functions, controls and dependancies of all the fields that are used in a schema.
Thanks for your help.
Ranahi,
CALCULATION SCHEMA:
In the calculation schema (pricing procedure), you specify which condition types are to be taken into account in which sequence.
In the price (or cost) determination process, the SAP System automatically determines which calculation schema is valid for a business transaction and takes into account, one after another, the condition types it contains.
MENU PATH:
SPRO > IMG > MATERIAL MANAGEMENT > PURCHASING > CONDITIONS > DEFINE PRICE DETERMINATION PROCESS > DEFINE CALCULATION SCHEMA.
SCHEMA GROUP:
These allow you to group together purchasing organizations that use the same calculation schema.
You can also use them to group together vendors for whom the same calculation schema is valid.
MENU PATH:
SPRO > IMG > MATERIAL MANAGEMENT > PURCHASING > CONDITIONS > DEFINE PRICE DETERMINATION PROCESS > DEFINE SCHEMA GROUP.
in this step we have to configure:
1> SHEMA GROUP FOR VENDOR.
2> SCHEMA GROUP FOR PURCHASING ORGANIZATION.
3> ASSIGNMENT OF SCHEMA GROUP TO PURCHAING ORGANIZATION.
SCHEMA DETERMINATION:
In this step, you assign purchasing transactions and processes to a calculation schema; that is, you specify the cases in which a certain schema is used.
For standard purchase orders
(depending on the schema group of the vendor and the purchasing organization)
For stock transport orders
(depending on the supplying plant, the document type and the schema group of the purchasing organization)
For market price determination
(depending on the purchasing organization)
That is, for each purchasing organization, a separate calculation schema can apply for the determination of the market price.
MENU PATH:
SPRO > IMG > MATERIAL MANAGEMENT > PURCHASING > CONDITIONS > DEFINE PRICE DETERMINATION PROCESS > DEFINE SCHEMA DETERMINATION.
here we have to assign the purchase organization schema and vendor schema wwith the pricing procedure.
beside this we have to assign the vendor schema to vandor master also in purchasing data.
regards
jash -
Details of the standard SAP routines used in Pricing schema
Dear All,
I am a SAP-MM consultant and want to configure a pricing schema as per the business requirement of the client.Where shall I get the information about the significance of the keys in alternative calculation tye, requirement and alternative formula type.
I am not able to extract the meaning of the small routins beneat it.
Eg What happens if requirement key 60 is used?
Milindhi,
Routines are some requirement of the pricing procedure which can't be mapped in std procedure. So here we are going to TC-VOFM, and defining our requirement with the help of ABAPers.
Few examples are given below:
Routine /Formula :- 15
A company has defined minimum prices for materials.
When a material is sold, it should not be sold for a price below the predefined minimum price. When pricing is done for a sales document line item, if the net price of the item falls below the minimum, the system should automatically compute a surcharge to bring the price up to the minimum price. To accomplish this, the user would define the minimum prices using the condition type PMIN. PMIN would be defined in the pricing procedure and condition value formula '15' would be assigned. Using the formula, the system compares the minimum price with the net price calculated to that point in the pricing procedure. If the minimum price is not met, the system computes the necessary surcharge and assigns it to the PMIN condition line.
Routine /Formula :- 48
Formula '48' was delivered to ensure that the down payment amount the user offsets in a billing document does not exceed the actual down payment value. Condition value formula '48' is assigned to the condition type in the pricing procedure representing down payments (R/3 delivered condition type AZWR). -
AFS Condition Types and Pricing Schema
Dear All
I am working in AFS 6.00 in that i am not able to find AFS Condition Type and Pricing schema like
J3AP, J3AX, J3AD and J3A00.
But in SAP AFS Library they have mentioned all the condition type and Procedure will Come default.
AFS Condition Types
Choose one of the following condition types to determine prices at SKU level:
J3AP
gross price at SKU level J3AX
manual entry of the gross price at SKU level J3AD
discount in percent at SKU level
"The calculation schema J3A00 and the schema group J1 are predefined in the AFS standard system. In order to be able to specify prices at SKU level, the schema group J1 must be entered in the Vendor Master Record."
Kindly confirm me whether it is available default or any Note has to apply to get this option.
Kindly guide me.
ShobanaDear Shobhana,
All the default conditions will be available in client "000". Please
copy these condition from client "000" to any other client.
If you wish to copy Customizing from client 000 to other clients.
then you need to have all the customizing that you wish to copy
collected in one place (a transport request). Further, to do the actual
synchronization/copying of the data, you can use the transaction SADJ
(Customizing Transfer Assistant). This tool is a part of the Cross
System Viewer application itself.
Please try this first on your test client first. If you have any doubts
please get back to us.
If you need more assistance on this please raise a message under
"BC-CUS-TOL-CST". My colleagues will be able to help you regarding this.
Regards,
Rakesh Ojha, -
Pricing schema for steel industries
Hi Friends,
Kindly help me on following issue..
I am working on a pricing schema (additional information : steel industries and material is being used with varient configuration)
take a example --there are three vendors suppling different grades of steel , having different material composition..( contains of AL, SL, PH, Mo etc in %)
suppose supplies will be as -- 0<x<1.2% x .85(multiplication factor)
0 .12<x<2%x.90
0.23<x<10%x.98
If the supplies meets any of the above combination then system should pick pricing schema for that material ..
I could not able to understand how to link these formulas with a pricing schema and how to trigger if supplies falls under these categories.
Your earliest response on above is highly appricable
thanksHi ,
Thanks for your reply , in the same mail i wish to thank all who has spare their time for ansering to my quires.
Is it possible in the following way...
Suppose i ask the quoations from the different vedors ( say Q1 , Q2 and Q3 theree different quoation for a same grade of a material or we can say for which falls in a specified material composition range)
I will create one ABAP program where in , while creating a PO, system will pick the price from the quotation ( the final quotation - the best one) along with a source of supply , material and the validity period .
Sytem will do the pricising based on the price picked from the quotation .
Is it possible .......?
kindly suggest me if it is possible .. then which thing or table etc need to consider while defining the schema.
thanks -
Statistical indicator in Pricing schema.
All,
Can anyone explain the relevance of 'statistical ' indicator in pricing schema in simple terms with some examples ?
regardsHi Sandeep
Consider this:
PBXX 100.00
RB00Discount 5.00
If you have above in PO conditions, the price in item overview will be 95.00 (100-5.00) which is net price.
If RB00 above is statistical in pricing schema, then the net price would have been 100.00
It works similar way for surcharges also (surcharge increase netprice while discounts reduce it when compared to your basic price)
You can also use it in quotations to define dummy conditions for loading to calculate landing cost without really affecting the price given to vendor.
Best regards
Ramki -
Differentiating of pricing schema for each purchasing document type
Dear colleagues,
This topic could be discussed before but I need to clarify some points.
We would like to differentiate pricing schema per purchasing document types (e.g. AA and ZZ). These purchasing documents are not like domestic and import types.
There some condition(s) where purchasing document type AA should not be able to maintain whereas ZZ should be able to.
In this case shall use one unique pricing schema for both purchasing document types if so how can I hide some conditions for document type AA or if I use separate pricing schema how can I set different pricing schemas for different purchasing document types because both document types have same purchasing organization, vendor etc.
Regards
MetinHi,
Why to have two different schema groups! Is procurement process is completely different, so use to have!
(have thought of separate condition types for each Calculation Schema)
Based on Schema Group Of Vendor in the vendor master, the PO for vendor with respective Schema Group Of Vendor will populate the assigned condition typesu2019. Follow path:
SPRO->MM->Purchasing->Conditions->Define Price determination process ->Define Schema Determination
Under segment:
Determine Calculation Schema for Standard Purchase Orders
Here you can assign Schema Group Purchasing Organization, Schema Group of Vendor and Calculation Schema
Under segment:
Determine Schema for Stock Transport Orders
Here you can assign Schema Group Purchasing Organization, PO document type and Calculation Schema
Regards,
Biju K -
Hi,
I have created the dealer pricing schema in that I have included ZADC condition by coping JADC condition and configured into the schema.
And accordingly I have created PO and I have entered the ZADC value manually but at the time of doing MIGO, ZADC value not fetching into ADC column in excise tab.
I have checked the tax code and tax procedure (TAXINJ) also in that I have putted the value as below
JM01 u2013 100%
JAO1 u2013 100 %
JEC1 u2013 2%
JA1S u2013 1%
Please suggest
Regards
RahulHi,
Why separate calculation schema for dealer scenarios!
You can have one domestic calculation schema where net price will be calculated and tax details flow from tax procedure with the help of tax code in the Purchase Order.
For dealer scenarios, at the time of PO creation, user do not know the excise value and PO created with a value with VAT/CST .During Goods receipt, the excise value are entered manually after knowing /getting excise invoice details.
For example:
Basic Price of material: 100
Excise Amount passed by dealer
BED: 10
Ecess: 2.
SEcess: 1.
=113.00
CST 2%
=115.26
Create PO for Dealer Vendor with Base Price as 113./- by selecting tax code which is having CST as 2% (Total PO value will be 115.26)
& do MIGO, select MRP indicator in miscellaneous tab, Enter Assessable value 100/- as in Excise tab Item level and enter the all excise values BED(10), ECess(2) , SECess(1) manually, check all values & save the document.
And finally go for MIRO ,use proper tax code( tax code in PO & tax code in MIRO must be different and MIRO tax code represents 10%BED,2%Ecess, 1%SEcess and 2%CST)),selecting calculate tax check box, edit base value as 100/-enter the amount in header as proposed by the system (115.26), simulate & post the document.
Regards,
Biju K -
Domestic pricing schema (urgent)
hi sap gurus
can any one pls let me know the customising process and conditions to be maintained in Domestic pricing schema i have a major issue.Hi,
1.TAXINN is the tax procedure used in county version india for calculating taxes
2. CIN MM module deals with calculation of Excises duties , E cess, VAT, CST , customs , Legal requirement ( like register maintainance) etc
3. Calculation Schema : This determines how the price has to be calculated in Purchase orders.
During the Purchase order creation we enter price and other condition for material that you are procuring, and also enter the taxcode in purchase order which calculates taxes.
Based on the Pricing value and Taxcode (tax values ) will update the GR Value and During the Invoice verification process system will suggest the prices with taxes.
for having the more clarity, please read the help content, link is provided below.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/40/a23c39129ffe2ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/9e/0b941b0fd64873bc54e8745fb044e7/content.htm
Thanks & Regards,
Archit -
Hi Expert,
I have an issue where there are 2 companies are sharing the same pricing schema. Previously all the prices and calculation are same and so they have no problem to use the same schema. But now, one of them (eg : company A) would like to have a different calculation for eg currently calculation is like "010305-02", now A wants to change it to "01+03-02". The rest like table,access sequence and so on are all still same. It is just that calculation different.Do we have to create new separate pricing schema for company A? If yes,what are the steps?
Thanks,hi..
yes...u should create different pricing schema for different company...
but if u want to use same pricing procedure..than u can apply the following concept..
u can add some addtiional condition type in your original procedure...and use these additional cond type only for 2nd company code..
open ur pricing proc..and in front of ur additional conditional type..there will be one field..called "Condition formula for alternative calculation type" and "Alternative formula for condition base value"..
u can define your calculation routine here..and can use for 2nd company....
Hope it helps you..
thanks.
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