Prime Infrastructure blocks SNMP during sync causing PRTG alarms

We're running Prime Infrastructure 1.2, and until yesterday we were mainly using it for wireless monitoring. We use PRTG for monitoring the state of the rest of the network. I added our core router (6509-E w/VSS), and during syncs, we will get PRTG alarms (SNMP traffic sensors) saying "No response". The downtime is ~5 minutes (which is the PRTG scanning interval). So, it seems like Prime is preventing other SNMP traffic during the syncs. Is this normal? I don't really like the thought of receiving a boatload of false alarms several times a day.

Hi Brian:
Prime Infrastructure 1.2.0.103 was deferred and removed from Cisco.com in favor of 1.2.1.12, for a number of issues.  The current release is 1.3.0.20 Update 1.  Between the two, there have been a number of fixes with regards to Java threads being locked, amount of system resources being used by the Oracle engine, size of the backups, and a lot more.  You may want to look into getting current to see if the behavior changes.
Clarifying the upgrade path to Prime Infrastructure 1.3.0.20 Update 1
Given the volume of data polled during sync cycles, I could see where Prime Infrastructures questions might dominate or even overwhelm the router's SNMP agent, but there's no process that puts an access-list to prevent the agent processing any other station's traffic while sync is going on.  You may want to check the CPU utilization of the SNMP agent (show process cpu | i SNMP ENGINE) before, during and after the sync to see what impact the sync has. 

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    I don't know if this has been fixed in 2.0 or not.  By the looks of the bug it hasn't.  However, there is a workaround-
    https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/search?kw=prime%20infrastructure%20copy%20run%20start&pf=prdNm&sb=anfr&srtBy=byRel&bt=custV
    BugID
    CSCuf89957
    Prime Infrastructure - No option to save running config to startup
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    Prime Infrastructure 1.2/1.3
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    This Ask The expert Session will cover questions spanning Cisco Prime Infrastructure on Implementation and Deployment on Wired and Wireless. This will be more specific to Customer’s and Partners questions product covering PI on configuration, Features and Menu, Network Monitoring, Maps, Implementation, High Availability and Maintenance and t/s parts.
    Monday, February 2nd, 2015 to Friday, February 13th, 2015
    Dhiresh Yadav is a customer support engineer in High-Touch Technical Services (HTTS)  handling supporting Wireless and Network Management based Cisco products and is based in Bangalore. His areas of expertise include Cisco Prime Infrastructure and Cisco Wireless products. He has over 7 years of industry experience working with large enterprise and service provider networks. He also holds CCNP (RS) and CCIE (DC) certifications.
    Afroz Ahmad is a customer support engineer in High-Touch Technical Services (HTTS)  handling supporting Wireless and Network Management based Cisco products and is based in Bangalore. His areas of expertise include Cisco NMS products like Prime Infrastructure, LMS, IP SLA and SNMP etc. He has over 7 years of industry experience working with large enterprise and service provider networks. He also holds CCNP (RS),CCIE (DC), and SCJP (Sun Certified Java Professional )
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    Hello Wilson,
    Thanks for joining us.
    1841 should just work fine for net flow . Hope you have a valid "PI Assurance license" installed on the server.
    "PI Assurance license" is required for "net-flow"  feature
    Devices supporting Netflow in PI ::
    1400, 1600, 1700 & 1800
    2500, 2600 & 2800
    3600, 3700, 3750 & 3800
    4500 & 4700
    AS5300 & 5800
    7200, 7300, 7400 & 7500
    Catalyst 4500 ASCI
    Catalyst 5000, 6500, & 7600 ASCI
    ESR 10000 ASCI
    GSR 12000 ASCI
    Cisco IOS Software Release Version
    Supported Cisco Hardware Platforms
    11.1CA, 11.1CC
    Cisco 7200 and 7500 series, RSP 7200 series
    12.0
    Cisco 1720, 2600, 3600, 4500, 4700, AS5800 
    RSP 7000 and 7200 series
    uBR 7200 and 7500 series
    RSM series
    12.0T, 12.0S
    Cisco 1720, 2600, 3600, 4500, 4700, AS5800 
    RSP 7000 and 7200 series
    uBR 7200 and 7500 series
    RSM series, MGX8800RPM series, and BPx8600 series
    12.0(3)T, 12.0(3)S
    Cisco 1720, 2600, 3600, 4500, 4700, AS5300, AS5800
    RSP 7000 and 7200 series
    uBR 7200 and 7500 series
    RSM series, MGX8800RPM series, and BPx8650 series
    12.0(4)T
    Cisco 1400, 1600, 1720, 2500, 2600, 3600, 4500,
    4700, AS5300, AS5800
    RSP 7000 and 7200 series
    uBR 7200 and 7500 series
    RSM series, MGX8800RPM series, and BPx8650 series
    12.0(4)XE
    Cisco 7100 series
    12.0(6)S
    Cisco 12000 series
    NetFlow is also supported by these devices Cisco 800, 1700, 1800, 2800, 3800, 6500, 7300, 7600, 10000, CRS-1 and these Catalyst series switches: 45xx, 55xx, 6xxx.
    NetFlow export is also supported on other Cisco switches when using a NetFlow Feature Card (NFFC) or NFFC II and the Route Switch Module (RSM), or Route Switch Feature Card (RSFC). However, check whether version 5 is supported, as most switches export version 7 by default.
    You can check the below steps to diagnose the issue::
     To verify that NetFlow is exported from a device to PI, follow the steps below:
    1)    Browse to Administration > Data Sources page. Check the value in column ‘Last Active Time’  for the ‘Device Data Sources’ table. If the table is empty or  the value does not represent recent time, then
    it is possible that the device is not exporting NetFlow or PI Assurance license is not applied / expired.
    2)    Login to PI console ( via SSH) as root user and run the command:
                    netstat –an | grep 9991 – Output of this should be like :  udp        0      0 :::9991         :::*
                    Check the firewall settings on PI server using the command: firewall -L
    1)    Check the configuration on an IOS / IOS –XE device. Run the commands
    a)    sh running-config | inc destination
    1)    This should list the IP address of the PI SERVER ( along with other outputs if any)
    b)    sh running-config | inc 9991
    1)    This should list at least one entry.
    c)    If the above are fine, then verify that the flow monitor, flow exporter and the flow records are correctly configured on the device.
    Refer to the URLs below to configure NetFlow export.
    http://preview.cisco.com/en/US/docs/net_mgmt/prime/infrastructure/2.0/user/guide/setup_monitor.html#wp1056427
    Thanks-
    Afroz
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