Print anchored objects

When I print a document on Indesign CS5 on pdf it prints texts, images, but not the anchored objects! Can anybody help me?

OK, we know they aren't set to non-printing, which is too bad, 'cause that's easy to fix and now we have to find some other reason.
Are you saying you are printing to PDF, or printing from the PDF? Do they show up if you export to PDF?

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Images as anchored objects in text

I use CS4 on a Mac. I'm working on a book with photos of my art in the text. Before I've used Place to insert all images. (I use Picasa to straighten and crop my photos, they are all jpgs in high resolution, the photos are in a separate folder on my Mac).
To make the pictures anchored objects in-line, I first place the graphic, then according to the instructions I cut, then paste in text, select image, then set the anchored object above the text etc.
http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/?id=vid0073
My question is what happens to the image when you cut and paste. Does it retain it's placed format, like file size and resolution? It seems my InDesign file should be bigger with the added images.
Should I be worried?

When use File>Place to insert an image to InDesign - InDesign creates a low-res thumbnail to act as a "placeholder" to the original image.
It's very cumbersome on the computer when viewing the images in full resolution within InDesign. As it could be displaying 10mb for each image and 10 images would 100 mb per page, quite a lot to render; for example.
Anchoring objects has no bearing on the file size (well maybe a little).
The file size and resolution is not affected when you place an image. But the Resolution is affected if you SCALE the image any amount.
If you go to the Window>Info panel and select an image then you can see TWO options ACTUAL and EFFECTIVE PPI.
Actual refers to what the original PPI of the image is (ppi = pixels per inch and refers to resolution)
And Effective shows the the PPI after the image has been scaled.
For example if you place a 72 ppi image and scale it 24% it will now be Effectively 300 ppi (100/24)*72=300
For printing you should ensure that the image quality is 300 ppi (it's a general rule of thumb and it's not entirely accurate but that's what most printing places operate at as a standard).
For the record - you should resave images as JPG if you make ANY alteration to them (as a rule of thumb) saving as JPG over and over can add jpeg artifacts to the image which will degrade the image over time, as jpeg is a lossy format (information is removed with each save). A better way would be to save as TIFF as this is a LOSSLESS format - in that no data is removed upon saving.
I wouldn't recommend Picassa for your image editing. You should get Photohsop or failing that a free open source program like GIMP.

Problem with anchored objects in file from CS4

I opened, in CS5, a file which was done in CS4 and discovered all my anchored objects were gone!
Analising the document, I understood they were there, but in a kind of mask ("Illustrator style") but in a text frame, which is odd, I think.
I show here:
1. one picture of the CS4 file
2. one picture of the same file, but opened in CS5
3. one picture of this file, in CS5, showing the "ghost" when I put the cursor over the "missing" anchored object
If I cut and paste the objects they appear, but if I put them back like anchored objects, they disapear again.
I had to fix every thing in a document I was working (it's a 124 pages document...) without anchored objects, just grouped them, because it was urgent (as always...) but I am reporting this because maybe people hadn't notice this and maybe there's a way to fix this.

It's very hard to tell what might be causing this without seeing the actual file. I looked around and found a CS4 file on my suystem with hundreds of anchored photos, and they show fine when I open in CS5.
My first impression is that this is ither a layer problem of some sort, or perhaps the objects have been set not to print and you have a preview mode enabled, but eh screen captures don't seem to support the latter.
What happens if you export the file to .idml in CS4 and open that in CS5?

Anchored objects disappeared

My anchored objects inserted into text have all disappeared. All layers are on. The text is there but the objects are not. How can I get them back?

All layers are on
@Annie – this is not relevant, because anchored objects ("inline" or "custom" makes no difference) are tied to the layer of their parent text frame.
1. The objects could be "hidden".
There is a contriol for that to bring back all hidden objects on a spread:
alt + cmd + 3 (for InDesign on Mac OSX)
2. The objects could be set to "No Printing" and you look at your document with the "View / Overprint Preview" checked. You can control the "No Printing" in the Attributes Panel.
3. A combination of 1. and 2.
4. The objects are removed…
Could happen with a TEXT or GREP search/replace action that happens to include all anchor characters in your text.
5. …
Uwe

Easier anchored objects

I think it would be great if anchor points were easier to use. I know how to create an anchored object, but I don't usually because they are a hassle. It would be much easier if anchor points could be added to objects that are already there. Also when I use text wrapping with an anchored graphic, it does not always work, depending on the vertical alignment with the anchor point.

All layers are on
@Annie – this is not relevant, because anchored objects ("inline" or "custom" makes no difference) are tied to the layer of their parent text frame.
1. The objects could be "hidden".
There is a contriol for that to bring back all hidden objects on a spread:
alt + cmd + 3 (for InDesign on Mac OSX)
2. The objects could be set to "No Printing" and you look at your document with the "View / Overprint Preview" checked. You can control the "No Printing" in the Attributes Panel.
3. A combination of 1. and 2.
4. The objects are removed…
Could happen with a TEXT or GREP search/replace action that happens to include all anchor characters in your text.
5. …
Uwe

Need anchored objects to be behind text

Anchored objects have aways had lot of shortcomings for my workflow. One shortcoming I'd really like to see fixed in future versions of ID is the inability to choose for the anchored object to appear behind the text it is anchored with. Here are just a few uses that I can think of that would be helpful in my workflow:
Creating numbered lists that have specialty art behind the numbers. To do this currently, you have to either do manual numbering and group it with each object and anchor the object with the number into the line of text or you have to keep the auto-number list and the objects for the numbers separate and manually reposition the number objects whenever the text reflows.
Creating paragraph backgrounds that flow with the paragraph. Right now about the only way to do that is using the paragraph rules or tables which have severe formatting limitations (no rounded corners, ignore text wrap, etc.), and the rules are difficult to resize. If you could create the background as a ID object or placed art and anchor it to the beginning or end of the paragraph, you could manually resize it to the size of the paragraph and it will flow with the paragraph whereever you need it (this currently will not work unless the object can be made transparent to the text using an effect.
Captioning anchored images could actually overlap the image if and where necessary. Right now, if you want captions to appear on top of an anchored image, you have to group the caption with the image before anchoring it into the text flow.
There are workarounds obviously for these tasks (as I've indicated), but by their nature workarounds are time consuming. I'm always looking for ways to automate tasks and save time in ID. Having the option to make an object appear behind the text it is anchored with would be a tremendous time saver.
Anyone else see a use for stacking order option with anchored objects?

@Obi-wan – you say: "Despite the fact that, like all anchored boxes, it is foreground, text color is truly visible with no effect on the blue block !!"
With anchoring "Above Line" the anchored objects are really stacked behind. At least that stacking order is true for all characters after the anchor character. Using a different anchoring method will always yield in anchored objects stacked above (foreground).
Doing some tricks with the effects panel on the anchored object is alright, so that all the other text, that is stacked below will showing through, but you should be aware, that these effects will change the game when it comes to color separation for print workflows.
Separation preview with all channels visible CMYK:
Separation preview with [Black] not visible CMY:
As you can see, the usually overprinting color [Black] on the text below is left out. When exporting a PDF, I think nearly no prepress tool in the world will find an automatic way to change this because of the stacking order of the elements.
If the green rectangle would be stacked behind the text like in anchoring "Above Line" we will see the following with separation preview CMYK:
Turn off K in the separation preview will give a surprising image:
All black text, that comes after the anchor character will overprint, all text before will not. And that "will not" is definitive. If we look at the objects in Acrobat Pro after exporting to PDF, we will see that not overprinting characters "ut endis" in my little screenshot here are below the green rectangle, all characters following after the anchor are above the green rectangle.
Here a screen shot from Acrobat Pro that will reveal the stacking order a bit (the transparent background of the page is shown as gray; an option in Acrobat Pro's view preferences):
So in the end, "ut endis" will be printed with a total amount of color:
0 Cyan
0 Magenta
0 Yellow
100 Black
Sum: 100%
The "black" text following due to overprinting* (EDIT) will be printed with:
75 Cyan
5 Magenta
100 Yellow
100 Black
Sum: 280%
* AND of stacking order of course!
All other black text will overprint as well, but there is no effect for the green rectangle because the text is stacked behind the rectangle.
Uwe

Anchored Objects Disappear When Page Moved

I'm working in InDesign CS2 in XP environment. I duplicated a page that contains anchored objects. It was page one; the duplicate page is now page 5. I modified the duplicate page 5. Now I want the altered page 5 moved into page 1 position.
When I move the pages either by dragging or by right clicking on the page icon and using the Move Page command, all anchored objects on the page disappear. I also cannot release the anchored objects because the release command is disabled when I select an object with the selection tool.
Any suggestions?

I got your file, and after looking at it, it's probably better not to post it publicly. For the lurkers, it's a draft government document, not yet ready for release.
Anyway, I took a look at the file, first in CS2 where it was created, and then in CS3 to see if it would behave differently.
First, the anchored objects aren't really gone, just temporarily invisible. if you select the objects and move the page, you can still see the selection outline. It's some sort of screen display bug/glitch, I think, in CS2. Exporting to .inx didn't fix it, so I think it's not corruption, and it doesn't happen at all in CS3.
The bad news is I have no way to explain what the problem is, or how to prevent it from happening. The good news is I found a way to make them reappear! Select the text frame with the selection tool, and change its stacking order. I tried Ctrl + Shift + [ to send to the back, and Ctrl + ] to bring forward, and both seemed to work, though it may make a difference where in the order they start out. If one attempt doesn't work, try again, or send all the way back or forward.
For what it's worth, this is only a display problem. Even when the anchored objects are not visible on the screen they show in both printed and exported PDF.
Peter

GREPFind/Replace Anchored Objects

I'm trying to use Find/Replace to automatically remove all the EMPTY anchored objects from my document.
First, I use Data Merge to Create Merged Document, then run a series of Find/Replace actions to clean up hidden paragraph markers and the like. But there are some Anchored Objects that do not contain links which I need to have removed.
I've created a script for the series of actions, but everything I try for the anchored objects simply removes all of them.

All layers are on
@Annie – this is not relevant, because anchored objects ("inline" or "custom" makes no difference) are tied to the layer of their parent text frame.
1. The objects could be "hidden".
There is a contriol for that to bring back all hidden objects on a spread:
alt + cmd + 3 (for InDesign on Mac OSX)
2. The objects could be set to "No Printing" and you look at your document with the "View / Overprint Preview" checked. You can control the "No Printing" in the Attributes Panel.
3. A combination of 1. and 2.
4. The objects are removed…
Could happen with a TEXT or GREP search/replace action that happens to include all anchor characters in your text.
5. …
Uwe

TOC scrambled with headings from anchored objects

I have a book design with first-level headings in the main text flow and second-level headings inside of anchored objects in the left margin of the pages. When I generate a TOC the headings used to be in the correct order, precisely as intended. After installing the 5.0.2 update however the TOC gets scrambled when I update it. The second-level headings from the anchored objects are printed before the first-level heading (in the TOC) when they are both on the same page. Second-level headings on pages after the first-level heading are printed after the first-level heading (in the TOC) where they should be.
The source of this problem may be the altered search-order for headings that should be included in the TOC. Although it seems only logical that the main text flow defines the order from top to bottom and anchored objects should be included from the anchor in the main text flow. Now it seems that the search order is from left to right on the pages.
Adobe says to have made major fixes in the areas of both anchored objects and table of content generation, but whatever they did the only difference I find is for the worse.
Is there a fix for this fix?

Long shot, but go to the application preferences and uncheck the box in the General section that says Prevent Selection of Locked Objects.

Trying to print an object at all pages but not last

Hi.
I'm trying to print an object (a square ) at all pages but not printing at last. I try to use "All But Last Page" at "Print Object On" property of field but this is not ok.
Tried to get value of any function like SRW.GET_PAGE_NUM to find the last page indicator, but I think this doesn't exist.
Any idea will be apreciated.
Thanks.

Hope this helps.
It's all about anchors. Objects cannot have a property of Print Object On "Last Page" or "All but last page" if their Base Printing On property is "Enclosing Object". In order for it to work, you should anchor the fields or frames you want displayed on "all but the last page" to the main frame which holds the Repeating frame of the detail section of your report. Then, you should set the Base Printing On property to "Anchoring Object" and now you're ready to use the "All but last page" and "Last Page" options on Print Object On property.
-vcastane.mx

Can't print OLE objects when 9i report developed in 6i

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New technique to place multiple anchored objects in InDesign story

Hello,
For a while I have been trying to figure out how to insert multiple anchored objects into an Indesign story. As far as I can tell, you cannot copy multiple objects that have already been placed in a document (such as a multi-page pdf) into an InDesign story, but must copy and paste them one-by-one into the story. This is a problem for a project I am working on where I want to have a large number of 340x52 pt pdfs to flow throughout a document in a master text frame interspersed with text.
I have now found a solution for this issue that I thought I would share in case it would be helpful for anyone. It utilizes Automator actions for Mac OS X and Microsoft Word 2011 [2008 may work also, but I don't have a copy of that to test]; I am not good with scripting but perhaps similar solutions could be found for other systems and programs.
1. If you want to place a multipage pdf within a text frame, first it into individual files for each page (with Acrobat Pro or pdftk or something similiar).
2. Create an Automator service or program with the action "Create New Word Document". You can also use another automator action to save the document, or save it manually (to change the filename). In the finder, select the items you want, then run the service or drag them into the Automator program you have created.
3. Place the word document into your InDesign story. Your items will now be anchored objects ordered in your text frame as they were in the finder.
Please let me know if this is helpful or if anyone has suggestions for doing this process is a more efficient way. I am not sure, but it may be the case that this approach would only work on Macs, as I gather from this thread.

I might note that I am using InDesign CS 5, and importing from a document stored in docx format.

Get textFrame by label returns null and anchored objects

I have the following two functions:
function getByLabel(page, label)
    for(var i=0; i < page.allPageItems.length; i++)
        if( page.allPageItems[i].label == label )
            return page.allPageItems[i];
and
Object.prototype.findItems = function(/*obj*/props)
    if( !('everyItem' in this) )
        throw new Error("Error: " + this + " is not a collection.");
    var ret = this.everyItem().getElements(),
        i = ret.length,
        e, p;
    while( i-- && e=ret[i] )
        for( p in props )
            if( (p in e) && e[p]===props[p] ) continue;
            ret.splice(i,1);
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In my page structure, I got one main text frame (the content area) and two vertical text fromes on the sides of the page. There is also a small box textframe on top of the page. All these textboxes EXCEPT the main text frame are ALL "ANCHORED objects". I had to make them anchored objects, eitherwise after importing data, the boxes would jump around. (Example, the small box textframe that is on the top would get moved to the content area textframe etc). Not sure if using anchored objects is the proper way to fix this.
When I try to get the small box text frame, it does not work using the findItems (returns null) but it works fine with the getByLabel method. Why is that?
The calling syntax is:
for( i=0 ; i < doc.pages.length ; ++i )
        var page = doc.pages.item(i);
        var textFrame = getByLabel(page, 'lblSection' ); //This works
        //   var textFrame = page.textFrames.findItems({ label: 'lblSection' })[0]; This does not work, returns null
        if( textFrame != null )
            textFrame.parentStory.contents = "";

(function () {
    // Per the InDesign Scripting Guide, app.activeScript is only
    // valid when a script is directly executed from InDesign, not
    // from the ESTK, so a try/catch block is recommended to handle
    // it.
    var d;
    try {
        d = app.activeScript.parent.parent.fsName;
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Text wrap in anchored objects

In order to place text boxes relative to the spine, I have placed them as anchored objects.
But now, these text frames do not respect text wrap setting from objects outside of the anchored object.
I have made sure that ignore text wrap in text frame options is not checked.
Is this a bug?
And does anyone know a workaround?

In order to make my design indifferent to later added pages, I have placed all text frames and graphic placeholders as anchored objects, positioning them relative to spine.
When I now place an object on top of such an anchored text frame, text wrap is not working, even if i overide the master page item.
The only work around I have found is to copy the respective text frame and make the original master page item unvisible.
Is there not another way to to this?
For me, the best would be another way of placing text and graphic frames relative to spine.
Bus as soon as one overrides the master page item, the object is not placed anymore relative to spine if another page is inserted.

CS4 text wrap over anchored object

Every time I place an anchored object (doesn't matter if it's graphic or text frame) and apply text wrap, Indesign freezes permanently and only solution is killing it via task manager.
I opened CS3 file with anchored objects w/ txt wrap and the same freeze happens when trying to move, delete or apply different wrap settings to object.
It never happened in previous version of ID on my machine.
Any solution to this problem? Thanks.
My PC conf.:
AMD x2 2.7
2GB RAM
Vista 32bit

The first thing to try is replacing your preferences.
http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/5.0/help.html?content=WSa285fff53dea4f86173837510 01ea8cb3f-6d1e.html

Print anchored objects

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