Print booklet feature -- printing on back side

Hi. I posted earlier about a playbill I'm working on. I took an ID tutorial, but it didn't address the problems I'm encountering. I'm using ID 5.0 (CS3) on a MAcbook pro running Leopard.
The playbrill is 12 pages. I'm printing using 'print booklet'. Page one of the playbill prints on the right half of the first peice of paper and page 12 prints on the left half. Page two of the playbill ends up on the left half of the second peice of printed paper, page 11 on the right half, and so on.
BUT...what we need is for Indesign to spit out the first peice of paper, with page 1 and 12, and then to NOT PRING PAGES 2 and 11, so that we can turn the paper with 1 and 12 on it and feed it back into the machine, which will then print pages 2 and 11 on THE BACK, so that every peice of paper has four pages on it. And so on with the rest of the bill.
Is there a way to do this, or some other protocol for dealing with cases where you are printing on front and back?
Thanks in advance for help.

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[Ann.] Before starting yet another discussion complaining about InDesign's "Print Booklet ..."

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http://sterlingcomputing.com
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Nice looking dialog. I added [Ann.] to the title to make it clear what this post is.
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