Print color doesn't match monitor

I have a brand new iMac, love how my photos look on screen and don't understand why the colors in prints ordered through Apple online don't match. They look fine on the screen then come back too dark or too red.

There's a similar discussion going on here
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2326897&tstart=0
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TD

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