Print quality from CS3 to a non-PS b/w printer

I open an image in Photoshop CS3 and do a file / print to my HP laserjet 1300 black an white printer. The image prints out with a halftone pattern with little dots visible all over the place.
If I place the same image without any changes into Illustrator and do a file / print form there, the image comes out looking like a black and white photograph with none of the dots / halftone pattern of the photoshop image.
I want it to look like a photograph. I do not want the halftone / dots.
Can someone help me with what is happening here? Maybe just some photoshop setting that I need in order to print nice looking images from Photoshop CS3 to this printer rather than having to get Illustrator involved?

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Bobby30 wrote:
I've got v11.02 and it doesn't solve the same problem printint to a HP Laserjet 5.My only solution is printing to my Canon i9900 inkjet. I wonder if CS5 solves the problem?
Sounds more like the printer driver is the root of your problem.
The meaningful question here is: Does HP have a current driver for the LaserJet 5 and your operating system?
And keep in mind that you can download and try Photoshop CS5 for 30 days free.
-Noel

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It's not 100% clear from your post, but you should be aware that CS5 plugins should not work in CS5.5. Because of a CS5.5 bug, CS5 plugins will load in InDesign 7.5.0, but that is fixed in 7.5.1 so they will not load.
You should lean a bit harder on Virginia Systems. They should be able to tell you how to get them the stack trace from the crash which they should be able to look at and tell you which plugin (if any) is responsible for the crash. I could do it for Mac OS X but I don't know how under Windows. You could start by looking at the Event Viewer, though. That may have some helpful information about the crashes and the faulting module.

Upgrading from CS3 to CS5 issues

I work at a medium size College on a pretty small team, 1 editor/writer, 1 communications coordinator, and 1 designer (me). I've been using InDesign (ID) for 5 years now and we added on the InCopy (IC) workflow a few years ago with CS3 (both of us then had CS3). The editor and I just recently upgraded from CS3 to CS5 and we've hit a snag. I opened a project, the Academic Catalog in fact, in CS5 that we began in CS3 which we were almost finished with and when I tried to check out a story I got this error.
"This story needs to be converted to "InCopy Document" format in order to edit it."
The editor got the same message in IC. So I thought maybe files created by CS3 for IC don't work with CS5 so I decided to try to unlink the INCX files in ID and relink. Sure enough it created a new ICML file which the editor was able to open, edit, and save in IC. And I thought I had my problem solved until I opened the file in ID; when I tried to update the linked file ID crashed. I've tried unsuccessfully to get the updated stories from IC to update in ID w/o crashing. I've restarted the computer; it is Windows afterall. I've run 'Updates' in both our programs, and it says there are none. I've tried tossing the ID and ICML file; fortuanalty I was smart enough to do all this with a copy of the orginal CS3 file. I followed all my above steps a second time and it's still crashing. I'm not sure what to do at this point. Does anyone have any ideas? Is there a known issue like this?
btw, we're both running Windows Vista and both in CS5 (7.0).

AM
I might just have to go back to CS3 to finish this project up—fortunatly I foresaw an issue like this and kept CS3 installed. That will most likely solve the problem with this project, provided it too does not crash. And that is my concern for future 'new' projects in CS5, are those going to crash too? I think I'll do some testing with my editor.
Bob,
What type of additional info would help?
Thanks,
Colleen

Photographer moving from CS3 to CS5.5 looking for discussion of new features

Hi,
I'm a photographer (not retoucher or designer). Just moved over to CS5.5 from CS3 due to the price changes that will happen in the next upgrade. I'm finding the changes quite difficult to navigate. I know there's lots of info out there, but really, there's too much! I'm looking for a good discussion, video, print, whatever, of the main changes in workflow between the versions. I'm pretty old school in my PS use. I use Curves a lot, set skin tones with CMYK numbers etc. My work flow is probably closest to that used by many beauty retouchers. One of the big changes thats throwing, me for instance, is that I can no longer simply cmd click on a eyedropper target on skin then cmd 1, 2, 3 on the RGB curves layers to set points to adjust colour.
Links, suggestions of video's etc much appreciated.

One of the big changes thats throwing, me for instance, is that I can no longer simply cmd click on a eyedropper target on skin then cmd 1, 2, 3 on the RGB curves layers to set points to adjust colour.
In the Adjustments Panel it’s alt-2 (composite) and alt-3 (red), alt-4 (green), alt-5 (blue) to select the individual channels now.
And command-shift-click to set the points on the R-, G- and B-curves.
You may want to consider setting the Adjustments Panel to »Auto Select Targeted Adjustment Tool«.
One can still trigger the old modal dialog via a Script, but it might be better to just get accustomed to the Adjustments Panel.
You may be able to download the Help as pdf for CS4 and CS5, their respective »What’s new?«-sections should provide an overview of the accumulated new features.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/photoshop_cs4_help.pdf
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/photoshop/cs/using/photoshop_cs5_help.pdf

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