Print quality with Aperture and Epson RX580

Hi all,
I feel like I've tried everything, but I just can't get Aperture (the latest version with all the updates) to print from my MacBook Pro on my Epson photo printer the way I could from other photo software on my old PCs. On my old PCs, when I would print a photo from Canon DPP or Capture One, or even the Windows photo management software, I get a rich menu of dialogue boxes for the Epson printer offering different qualities of prints, different papers to choose from, "photo enhancement," and lots of other options. Prints came out sharp, colorful, and just great.
When I print from Aperture, I get none of these options (I get color management and resolution, and that's about it).
When I print from Aperture, I get vertical lines in the prints, visible dots, and pixellation. So what I do is email the "exported" versions to my daughter's PC laptop and print from there -- and get good results. Boy, that's a pain.
Surely Aperture can do better than this. So what am I missing? Any ideas for what I should be doing?
Thank you.

Canon MP990 and Macbook pro (os X snow lep.. and Lion) - Lines in prints in Aperture.
While a bit vague I got there and found the distinction between the printer driver managing it and the printer managing the photo quality causing the issues.
I could only transfer the pic's to iphoto and print for ( admitedly about the same time of more than a year).
The FIX
in the first window after selecting print scroll down to rendering and select printer managed.
Select all the other settings you need then select print on the right bottom of this window.
This next dialogue box at the bottom is a show details button then a new set of menus are present (initial is layout in a pull down menu) select color matching then automatic ( you can change this but it worked so if it is not broken I'll play later ).
You should have clear prints with no lines...

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Hi -
I posted this on photo.net a while ago and nobody could seem to figure this out. I've searched through here with no help either. Here is the original photo.net post presenting my problem:
I've been having a problem with my print workflow that started about 6 months ago but has only now gotten to the point that I really need to fix it.
My equipment: Epson R2400 with stock inks, Aperture (latest version), iMac 2.33Ghz fully loaded and updated. I typically print on Epson Premium Luster or Enhanced Matte (I change K cartridge accordingly).
Once upon a time, I had this workflow working perfectly. Prints were coming out exactly as I wanted them to, really better than expected. Then something changed, but it wasn't hardware. Somewhere along the line, I'm guessing in a software update, all my profiles changed. I typically do all my adjustments in Aperture, then in the print dialogs do the following:
+In the 2400 settings, I turn color management off, and in the Print Settings, I select my paper, switch to Advanced, and typically choose Best Photo or whatever quality I'm needing.+
+Then in the Aperture print settings I choose the ColorSync profile that matches the paper and quality I selected in the above Print Settings window, keep Black Point Compression checked, and I'm off. As I said - this has worked flawlessly up until recently.+
The one thing I noticed that has changed is the available profiles in Aperture's ColorSync Profile pulldown menu. It used to only show paper profiles specific to each paper and quality, ie. "SPR2400 PremLuster BstPhoto.icc". Now, it shows not only those specific profiles, but also more generic paper profiles, such as "SPR2400 PremiumLuster", with no quality specification.
The problem is this: When I now select the paper/quality-specific profile, as I used to do, the prints come out all washed-out and flat. It even shows this in the preview window. It's slightly better when I select these new generic paper profiles, but still not like what I had. This is true with both types of paper I use.
I've attempted all the usual fixes, such as trashing all my profiles and re-loading new ones from Epson, re-installing Aperture and Epson software, and trashing prefs. Heck, I've reloaded all software that even remotely related to photography so many times, I can't even count any more. Nothing - just washed-out, dead-looking prints every time. And it all changed when I noticed those new generic profiles mentioned above.
I did make one hardware change after I first started experiencing these problems. I went from a PPC Dual 2.8Ghz G5 to the iMac, but as I said, these problems first occurred on the G5 and continued with the new iMac.
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Well, you could dump Aperture only to find that a 2.0 came along with OS 10.5 and fixed your problem, who knows.
And I wouldn't call 6 months of not being able to print anything at all from Aperture jumping to conclusions. When I press Apple P in any other application I get prints that even unprofiled will come out better than Aperture. It's serious. Not just sorta bad. The ocean looks like sewage water- not just mildly unappealing- sewage.
The solution for us, I suppose, is to buy calibrator hardware. I guess anyone who is professional should have one of these (and I do not) but I didn't buy Aperture to export for printing.
As far as how to get Apple to acnowledge this... I don't know. It seems as though they are tired of hearing me talk about this. This is the first post of recent about this that hasn't been deleted by an admin. Who knows? I'm just tired of having to buy all the hardware and all the software that is all supposed to work together and then once you pay, you find that you're up the creek for prints.
Don't get me started, or I'll start talking about how they don't support my camera make yet (or ever).... (Sigma). As you can imagine, I'm already IMPORTING 16 bit tiffs from my raw converter. I guess I need 3 copies of the same shot to do business in Aperture for now. I need some mylanta.
Otherwise, love ya Apple!
P.S. If you are looking for someone with the same hardware and problem as I, it's easy. Check out the print proofing podcast page on O'reilly "Inside Aperture". There's one there in the comments part (that I replied to). Others can be found on this forum.

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After installing the upgrade to 1.5, something went wrong with my printer setup for both my R1800 and my PictureMate Deluxe.
I've done the following:
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Attempted to Print from Aperture using about 30 + combinations of settings.
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william:
you don't state in your original posting whether or not you've calibrated your monitors, especially to a 2.2 Gamma. in order to get the most accurate screen->print matching you have to hardware calibrate your monitors. this is by far the single most significant improvement i've made in my workflow. prior to calibration my monitors were set to a gamma of 1.8 which is much brighter than 2.2 and this causes you to NOT correct your images with the additional exposure required for proper printing. my prints were always too dark prior to calibration.
the spyder 2 from color vision is an excellent choice.
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>"Unfortunately then I'd have to say all bets are off. The only true test is to print with the standard materials that Epson has designed their printer for. Only if that works well should you be trying third-party materials. For example, third-party inks in general are of poorer quality, are inconsistent, clog more, and in the long run, do not save you anywhere the amount of money they advertise over the genuine Epson products."
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I just got a B9180 too so thought I would try printing from Aperture. As you suggested I set Gamma to 1.15 - but I still feel the prints are a bit dark. Tried 1.20 but that looked identical to 1.15!

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Both systems have the latest version of Mavericks 10.9.5. and the latest Epson printer driver for my Artisan 730. On the iMac when I try to print to a CD using Epson Print CD I am unable to select the media type like I can on the MacBook. On the iMac the selection is grayed out and I cannot select anything from it. See screen shot below.
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