Print to JPEG problem, color management

I tried the print module option "Prin to JPEG File". I have compared the result with Photoshop CS3: the colors appear more muted with LR2 than with PSCS3. The color management parameters are the same in both programs:
Profile: sRGB
Rendering intent: Relative
Have you experienced the same problem?
Thank you.

I got the same problem.
From the tests I've done, the "print to jpeg" function produces a file in the display profile, whatever profile it is tagged.
LR2.4 WinXPSP2, and it has been replicated by another user on LR2.5 with vista64b (link in french). Didn't try with LR3beta yet, but will soon.
1) export a file as sRGB to make a reference, which will be called 'the export'.
2) set it as a full page in the print module, and 'print' as jpeg with the sRGB profile : when opened in PS besides the export, it is quite different, and to restore colors you have to assign the display profile to it (not convert).
3) another 'print as jpeg' of this file with another color space (AdobeRGB eg) is similar to 2 in non-color-managed apps (say IrfanView, that means that RGB numbers are the same) and consequently different in PS : again, you have to assign the display profile to make it look like the export.
My personal conclusion : the print to jpeg exports files with RGB numbers relative to the display profile, tagged with the profile the user asked for.
Can anyone replicate this, on the Mac side maybe?
I'd think it's worth a bug report?

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Problem: Color Management/Save for Web on Wide Gamut Monitor

Hi,
I've got a problem with color management - I thought I understood it, but it seems as if didn't. So I'm trying to kindly ask for help.
I'm printing, and also trying to save an image for Web.
My setup:
- Win 7, CS 5
- Calibrated Wide Gamut Monitor (eizo cg223w)
- Photoshop set to ProPhoto (I don't want to start a discussion adobergb vs prophoto)
- Save for Web and Devices, Embed Color Profile, Convert to SRGB
- Viewing in Firefox 3.6 with Color Management enabled
Problem:
Image: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/311345/luchs-1024.jpg
If I compare the file in Firefox and Photoshop, the Firefox presentation is slightly more saturated - and I have no idea why.
I thought it should work with the above workflow.
Here is a screenshot where you can clearly see a difference (Note: the additional over-saturation here is caused by the wide gammut monitor when taking screenshots, in reality its not as dramatic as that): http://imgur.com/MFPbU but you can clearly see the difference.
I would be very very thankful for any pointers what I'm doing wrong in my workflow!
Thanks in advance,
Christoph

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ch_bla wrote:
- Monitor calibrated
- Edit under ProPhoto RGB, 16 bit raw files
- Save for Web and Devices, Embed Color Profile, Convert to SRGB
Is this the preferred way?
It's a reasonable and correct way to do it, assuming you want to embed a profile in the images.
Since at least in some browsers and cases the colors selected within the HTML elements must match image colors, one can sometimes make a case for not embedding any profile at all, but that's really looking backwards. Browsers are moving forward toward not only managing colors in images but also in the HTML elements themselves. If you want your images accurately portrayed in as many places as possible you're doing the right thing looking forward.
Personally I embed the sRGB profile in my web images, as you are doing. And I check things primarily with IE and Safari.
Unlike you, I prefer to edit using the sRGB color space, but that's just personal preference. I find it more convenient to use File - Save As instead of File - Save For Web & Devices, and I get caught by gotchas less often this way. Your preference ensures you don't lose any colors at the extremes of the gamut while editing and it could easily be argued that that's better, depending on what image products you produce.
As for the article you mentioned, anyone who would set their preferred working space to Monitor RGB or use Proof Colors in normal editing is asking for trouble, and may not understand color management at all.
-Noel

JPEG and color management

Hi. Is it impossible to get 100% identical colors (if we leave aside the jpeg compression artefacts) when saving a .jpeg file with Photoshop using the highest quality setting (12) ?

Thanks for helping in this test despite hating JPEGs
Your screenshots proves that there are differences not only along hard edges (i.e. the borders between color patches), but that also whole color patches are affected.
This would mean, that color management isn't working properly with jpeg files. I hope someone with sound color management knowledge can confirm this or otherwise explain the problem.
> When using the Magic Wand (which I confess I don't understand what that is supposed to prove)
I try to explain once again:
1) Download the original source file (png) from the link above
2) open it in Photoshop and assign sRGB profile
3) save it as jpeg with highest quality settings possible (12)
4) open the jpeg file
5) add it as new layer over the png file
6) select "difference" as blending mode in the layers palette
7) now the whole image should appear almost black
7) select the magic wand tool (with abovementioned settings!)
8] click somewhere into the formerly gray area
explanation: you just selected all completely black pixels (0,0,0) i.e. all pixels that are identical in both layers
9) you should see "marching ants" forming rectangular patterns
10) invert the selection (Shift+i)
explanation: the selection now covers all the other pixels, i.e. all pixels which are different between both layers
11) create a new empty layer and select it in the layers palette
11) set the foreground color to white
12) fill the selection with white (alt+backspace on Windows, accordingly on Mac)
13) set the blending modes of all layers back to normal
explanation: you now have the image I posted above, i.e. you see all identical pixels in their respective color and all different pixels in white
The expected results would be white pixels along the borders between color patches, resulting from jpeg compression, but if color management works correctly there must not be entire color patches with the wrong color (i.e. white here)

Printing, Soft Proofing & Color Management in LR 1.2: Two Questions

Printing, Soft Proofing, and Color Management in LR 1.2: Two Questions
There are 2 common ways to set color management in Adobe CS2:
1. use managed by printer setting or,
2. use managed by Adobe CS2 program.
I want to ask how Color Management for Adobe LR 1.2 differs from that in CS2?
As is well known, Color Management by printer requires accurate printer profiles including specific model printer, types of ink and specific paper. It is clear that this seems to work well for LR 1.2 when using the Printer module.
Now lets consider what happens one tries to use Color Management by Adobe LR 1.2. Again, as is well known, Color Management by printer must be turned off so that only one Color Management system is used. It has been my experience that LR 1.2 cant Color Manage my images correctly. Perhaps someone with more experience can state whether this is true or what I might be doing to invalidate LR 1.2 Color Management.
Specifically, I cant use Soft Proofing to see how my images are changed on my monitor when I try to use the edit functions in LR 1.2. Martin Evening states in his text, The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book that it is not possible to display the results of the rendered choices (Perceptual or Relative) on the display monitor. While it is not clear in Evenings text if this applies to LR 1.2, my experience would suggest that it still applies to the 1.2 update even though the publication date of his book preceded this update.
Can someone with specific knowledge of Adobe LR 1.2 confirm that Color Management and Soft Proofing with LR 1.2 hasnt been implemented at the present.
The writer is a retired physicist with experience in laser physics and quantum optics.
Thanks,
Hersch Pilloff

Hersch,
since just like me, you're a physicist (I am just a little further from retirement ;) ) I'll explain a little further. computer screens (whether they are CRT or LCD) are based on emission (or transmission) of three colors of light in specific (but different for every screen) shades of red, green, and blue. This light stimulates the receptors in your eye which are sensitive to certain but different bands of red, green and blue as the display emits, making your brain think it sees a certain color instead of a mix of red green and blue. Printers however, produce color by modifying the reflection of the paper by absorbing light. Their color mixing operates completely differently than displays. When you throw all colors of ink on the paper, you get black (the mixing is said to be subtractive) instead of white as you get in displays (the mixing there is additive). The consequence of this is that in the absence of an infinite number of inks you cannot produce all the colors you can display on a monitor using a printer and vice versa. This can be easily seen if you compare a display's profile to a printer profile in a program such as Colorsync utility (on every mac) or
Gamut vision. Typically printers cannot reproduce a very large region in the blue but most displays on the other hand cannot make saturated yellows and cyans.
Here is a flattened XY diagram of a few color spaces and a typical printer profile to illustrate this. Most displays are close to sRGB, but some expensive ones are close to adobeRGB, making the possible difference between print and screen even worse.
So, when the conversion to the printer's profile is made from your source file (which in Lightroom is in a variant of prophotoRGB), for a lot of colors, the color management routine in the computer software has to make an approximation (the choice of perceptual and relative colorimetric determine what sort of approximation is made). Soft proofing allows you to see the result of this approximation and to correct specific problems with it.

Printing borderless and color management

I have some printing woes within Aperture, but forgive me because I am a former Qimage user who is used to perfection in every aspect of the printing process. (Maybe parallels is in my future.)
1. Borderless
I have my printer settings set to 4x6 (sheet feeder - borderless) and "best fit" as the orientation. I have scale set to "fill entire page." My 4x6 prints come out with a white border on the left and bottom. The preview gives no indication of this problem. Can someone give me some help getting a true borderless print?
2. Color management
I have my monitor calibrated using a Gretag MacBeth Eye One Display 2. I use a paper printer profile. I have turned off color management in the printer driver.
My prints are dark. If I increase the gamma setting in the dialog box, they get better.
What might be my problem? Why coming out dark?
Thanks in advance for any help!

I have my printer settings set to 4x6 (sheet feeder -
borderless) and "best fit" as the orientation. I
have scale set to "fill entire page." My 4x6 prints
come out with a white border on the left and bottom.
The preview gives no indication of this problem.
Is there a "borderless printing" setting within your printer's print dialog?
My prints are dark. If I increase the gamma setting
in the dialog box, they get better.
I'm just trying to learn about this myself, but one quesion might be whether your calibration system is tuning your monitor to a gamma of 1.8 or 2.2. Everybody seems to agree that it should be 2.2 these days. This makes the screen look lighter (at least on my system). So I guess this would be going the wrong direction (if it turned out you were calibrating to 1.8).
How sure are you that you have the right ICC profile for your printer and paper? Even as I ask that, though, I'm finding that I dislike the results my "correct" profile gives. This stuff is hard.

HP Printer PSC 2175 Color Management

I use raw images from my Canon. In Photoshop Elements v 5, I have color management set to "optimised for printing".
Tutorials on color management advise to de-activate any attempt by the printer driver to manage color. My HP printer driver (PSC 2175) has two options under Color Management: Automatic, or manual.
Under manual I can choose a color profile. The sRGB profile is included, and I can add the AdobeRGB1998 profile.
If I work with PE as described, what is the correct setting for the printer?

With an HP, I think you are probably best off choosing Printer Color Management in PE's print preview and then experimenting with the settings in the driver. Auto is usually not bad, really, since HP traditionally has tried to create a workflow that doesn't require a lot of user intervention.

Color-managed Printing

I use a jpg image with lots of colors and familiar object in it, to check my printing colors from various photo applications. I use an Epson R800 with its latest Epson driver, and when I print from Adobe CS2 or Lightroom using 'application-managed' colors, ie turning color management OFF in the printer driver, I get fine acceptable color. I expected the same in my trial of Aperture.
So using the same image file, I go to print image in Aperture, set the Print Settings to turn color management off, and select the paper profile for Epson Premium Glossy Bst Photo in the Colorsync Profile menu, and then the preview image for the dialog shows a purple-ish badly colored preview! Only when I set the Colorsync Profile to System Managed, do I see a preview that resembles the image file in the view mode in Aperture and in the other applications.
Finally, when i print that image, I get a print that resembles what I am looking for, but is inferior compared to the Lightroom and CS2 prints. it is muddy and dark compared to them.
Can someone straighten me out on the settings that I should use to avoid color management by the printer driver, and have Aperture send a color corrected image to the printer, as I do in Lightroom ad CS2? And finally, why is the print of lower quality than the print I am getting from these other applications? I have tried increasing the Gamma but that doesn't do it.

rwboyer wrote:
Most likely you are experience either a temporary or semi-permenant Aperture completely broken printing issue. You maybe able to fix it yourself or you may have to wait for a new driver/new aperture update. This kind of thing happens and is one of my most gigantic issues with Aperture.
Here is a little blurb that mentions how you might be able to fix it in the middle somewhere:
[Aperture printing|http://photo.rwboyer.com/2009/10/01/printing-color-spaces-color-management-and-o ther-religious-wars>
I personally do not have that printer so I cannot tell you if it happens not to work with Ap at this given moment. Even if it works with other apps fine there are occasions that I have had where a printer will not work with Aperture and the only thing that "fixed it" was a driver update that mentioned nothing about the issue. Why only Aperture? Who knows.
RB
and this is actually acceptable to you?

Color Management Custom Profiles - None available (Vista)

I get bad color in my prints from LR. My printer supports Adobe RGB, and hence I believe it would fix the problem is I could get LR to convert the image to Adobe RGB before printing. Under Color Management, I click on "Managed by Printer" to get a popup menu that has both "Managed by Printer" (checked) and "Other" as options. I select "Other" and a window appears with the title "Choose Profiles" and the text "Choose profiles to appear in Custom Profile popup:" The problem is that the window is empty. There are no choices! I have checked and I have the ICC files installed in Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color and they are associated with my printer by windows. I copied and add icm versions of the icc files. Still no profiles appear.
Does this work for others? Can anyone get any options to show up?
Thanks for any help or advice.
Davy

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Adobe Reader XI won't print PDF's in color

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Thanks to the previous post by KCoons, I figured out how to fix a similar issue.
MY SITUATION: I was printing thousands of concert flyers to a fairly modern Ricoh printer, and I noticed that even though the source document was B&W, Adobe was printing the greyscale as dots of color, seriously depleting my color toner. I had to play around with the settings to get Acrobat Pro to print it in true B&W, using only black toner.
Later on, I discovered Acrobat would not print ANYTHING in color, while other programs had no problem with color.
THE SOLUTION: This is not exactly the same as the one posted above, which is why I am posting this as a possible alternative for users with a similar problem...
In the PRINT dialog, click on the ADVANCED button to the right of the printer selection field.
In the ADVANCED PRINT SETUP dialog, in the selection field just above the print image, click on COLOR MANAGEMENT.
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Printing in LR - poor color reproduction

Photos I print in LR's printing module with a Canon Pixma MP800R and using Canon PP-101 paper and Canon ink, turn out in a kind of brownish/faded color and are totally different from the photos on the screen. I use 'Managed by printer' and 'perceptual'
I noticed that the advise is that "When selecting 'managed by printer' remember to enable color management in the printer driver dialog box". Where do I find this dialog box?
Perhaps not knowing how to enable color management causes the bad color reproduction?
Thanks for advise!

You need to choose a specific print profile (probably called something like "canon mp800r pr1" - this is what canon calls it's profile for your printer (canon mp800r) and that paper(pr is code for photo paper pro) at highest quality(1) (see the steves digicam link below for further info). This will have been loaded with the printer driver). Select it by picking "other" from the dropdown list of profiles in the print module in lightroom and you should be presented with a list with your profiles in(canon mp800r mp1, canon mp800r pr1 etc). If they are not there, your printer driver may not have been installed properly)
You must then disable the printer profile in the colour/intensity section of the printer settings dialog (press "print settings..." in lighroom then "properties" next to the drop down list with the name of your printer in it. Then select the "manual" radio button in the colour/intensity bit of this dialog and press the set button in the same section of this dialog).
I have found it helpful with some papers to set the print quality manually in the same dialog (select "custom" radio button and then press the "set" button in the same section of the dialog) to high(1) and the halftoning to diffusion.
If you have not already done it, make sure you choose the correct type of paper from the drop down list - for canon papers this will be obvious. For non-canon papers you will need to either look at the package for information or go to the manufacturers website - eg kodak ultima paper and ilford galarie classic pearl recommend the canon photopaper pro setting in my mp600 - this may vary with yours)
Once you have done all this, make sure to save a print preset with the name of the paper so you can easily go back to this combination of settings if you need to in the future. Do this by pressing the "add" button in lightroom when you are in the print module (bottom left of screen) - It is great, lightroom remembers all the settings that you have changed. If you decide these settings are not right for the paper then you can create a new preset or right click on the name of your preset and choose "update with current settings". To me, after using elements for a long time, these presets seem like a real step in a professional direction to help you ensure consistency of quality in printing.
Also, on some papers such as kodak ultima, you have to set the brightness to light in the colour/intensity section also (again this might be different for your printer so chack the paper manufacturers websites) - i figured this one out after spending half an hour digging around the kodak website to find the recommended printer settings. Some companies (eg ilford and kodak for their professional papers) have specific colour profiles for download to colourmatch your printer and paper.
NB - I can offer no guarantees, but this works for me with an MP600 and vista. I am not any sort of expert, just an enthusiastic amateur who spent a long time trying to resolve these issues using a combination of this forum and lots of web serching. I found this article on steves digicams site very helpful:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/techcorner/June_2005.html
Also lightroom 1.1 is known to have printing colour reproduction problems with vista if you use the "managed by printer" setting - it is in the readme and recommends that specific printer profiles are selected - as I suggest above.

HP Envy 5530 - Color Management

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Thanks for responding. According to HP: "For HP printers, changing these settings (Color Management Settings in the OS) will not affect output. This is because the printer only supports ICC color management in Windows through the application (not the operating system) in order to reduce the possibility of over-processing images." The option I'm looking for is: "Managed by application essentially turns off printer driver-based color management. Selecting this option tells the printer that incoming color is already color-managed, and the driver is not to do any color conversions to the image data." - Quote from HP Consumer Support Apparently, this is not possible on the HP Envy 5530 - neither is getting "lab quality photos" as you advertise. If the quality of the prints were acceptable, particularly in black and white, I wouldn't need to be looking for a 'fix'. Finding out which HP printers have the "managed by application" feature has proven to be difficult. Thanks for addressing my problem. Best Regards

Why did Adobe get rid of 'No Color Management' option in CS5

I use this option (in earlier CS verisons) when printing digital negatives on transparency film on my Epson 3880. There are a few work-arounds, including a printer utility from Adobe (which only works on tIff files, so it's limitied).
But why, oh why did they get rid of this option in the first place. Did someone just decide, gee, I don't think that's a feature we want anymore in our program, so, puff, it's gone? I hate it when program 'updates' make my work harder instead of easier.
Regards, David

Was DYP wrote:
Can you prove this with a supporting document?
Nope...I was told this by engineers familiar with the initiative...
Was DYP wrote:
ACPU and for that matter i1Profiler sends print image data (untagged I assume) through ColorSync and the print driver the exact same way as Lightroom and PSCS5 do when Application Manages Color is selected when printing. The only difference is that LR and PS do not allow you to send untagged image data.
ACPU does send the untagged data through Colorsync, but the image data gets converted by Colorsync or ACPU to the printer profile chosen in the print driver as set up in the Print window of ACPU...so, since the document is in the final profile space of the printer, the print driver does nothing (null transform). Then you choose don't manage color in the driver. Exactly how ACPU works with Colorsync to avoid having Colorsync to an unwanted color transform isn't clear (would have to ask the engineer that wrote it), ACPU is clearly doing SOMETHING different than Photoshop and Lightroom when sending the image data to the printer.
You can see what profile gets embedded when printing from ACPU by setting up the driver and saving a PDF and opening in Photoshop. When I printed to PDF from ACPU after setting up the driver to use Epson Glossy paper on an Epson R3000, the embedded profile in the PDF was SPR3000 Premium Glossy. Which if sent to the printer should result in a null transform. This is similar to the CS5 work around to tag an image with a color space and have that same color space set in Photoshop Manages Color and set the Printer Profile color space to be the same thus bypassing the Colorsync "generic RGB" transform. However, that work around no longer works with Photoshop CS6 (we were warned that this might happen BTW).
I haven't tried it yet, but it's possible that you could still work around this in CS6 if you take an untagged target, assign the printer profile, then use Photoshop Manages Color with the profile being the same printer profile and then in the driver set do not color manage...actually, scratch that–I just tried that and CS6 pops a warning that "No Color Managment is not supported" when trying to print without the proper color management and to get ACPU with a link to download it. I guess Photoshop got pretty serious about disallowing this sort of printing. Heck, you can't even print to PDF.
On the other hand, the simplest solution for me is to simply print out the target using i1Profiler...

Turn off the Printers color management function for the Pro-100

I've tried everything to get this printer to print realistic colors. I had the Pro-9000 MK II and it was spot on. I'm running Mac OS 10.9.1 and downloaded all the current drivers for the Pro-100. The colors are way off. I am using Print Studio Pro, Under color management I'm selecting the ICC profile for the paper being used, the printer profile was downloaded from Canon's web site and that's selected the same paper type. Color matching is grayed out.
My monitor has been calibrated so I know that's not the issue. Especially since the Pro-9000 was right on the mark. Any suggestions???
Thanks in advance.
Rob
Mesa, AZ

Rob:
“I am using Print Studio Pro, under color management I'm selecting the ICC profile for the paper being used, the printer profile was downloaded from Canon's web site and that's selected the same paper type. Color matching is grayed out.”
I use the same setup as you and I print with, Print Studio Pro and LR4. My monitor is not calibrated. I only use Canon ink and Canon paper and the corresponding ICC profiles. My color output is exceptional. Black & white is good but not exceptional.
When I purchased this printer (a couple of months ago) I just followed the installation instructions and it worked great (for color prints) right out of the box. You may want to try a reinstall to see if that solves the issue. The Pro-100 is a very good printer.
Tinman
Mesa, AZ
Nikon D600; Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G, 85mm f/1.8G, 70-300mmG f/4.5 - 5.6 VR

Color management........again SORRY!

OK, I know this topic is like fingernails on a chalkboard, however I have not been able to understand or solve my issues after months of trying.... I have a very simple setup (and also very simple needs...):
PE 5.0
Epson RX-700 printer
Colorvision Spyder2
Nikon D70
I can NOT get prints from any image that I modify in PE. In fact, the only time I can get a reasonably matched print is if I utilize the PhotoEnhance setting within my Epson configuration and no modification has been done within PE. All of my prints come out with an apparent 2-3 stop underexposure when I print a PE modified image. Modifications range from unsharp mask to a few layers, but nothing very fancy or involved.
My question:
1. There are many options for printer color space; sRGB, EPSON sRGB, NIKON sRGB, etc. Which would be optimal? My camera is set to sRGB, though I've tried Adobe RGB with the same results.
I would rather have PE color manage, but when I set the printer to do no color management, I get the above results.
Any suggestions on things to try, things I've overlooked, or anything in general?
Any help is very much appreciated...
Dave

OK, I know this topic is like fingernails on a chalkboard, however I have not been able to understand or solve my issues after months of trying.... I have a very simple setup (and also very simple needs...):
PE 5.0
Epson RX-700 printer
Colorvision Spyder2
Nikon D70
I can NOT get prints from any image that I modify in PE. In fact, the only time I can get a reasonably matched print is if I utilize the PhotoEnhance setting within my Epson configuration and no modification has been done within PE. All of my prints come out with an apparent 2-3 stop underexposure when I print a PE modified image. Modifications range from unsharp mask to a few layers, but nothing very fancy or involved.
My question:
1. There are many options for printer color space; sRGB, EPSON sRGB, NIKON sRGB, etc. Which would be optimal? My camera is set to sRGB, though I've tried Adobe RGB with the same results.
I would rather have PE color manage, but when I set the printer to do no color management, I get the above results.
Any suggestions on things to try, things I've overlooked, or anything in general?
Any help is very much appreciated...
Dave

Preview Color Management broken? Profile not applied?

Hi all,
I've come upon an inconsistency and wondered if anyone else is having this issue?
I profiled my Xerox Color Laser Printer. When I print out of Photoshop CS 4 my prints look great.
If I print out of Preview (Mac OS X 7.5), the colors are not correct and the In Printer color management prints match the ColorSync Color Managed with my new custom profile selected prints? I tried turning on the soft proofing, and the screen image in Preview looks amazingly like my successful Photoshop Color Managed Print, but when I print, the image appears as if the printer profile is not being applied. FYI, this profile is an ICC v2 Profile.
As I noted prints out of Photoshop are accurate and just fine.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, and so long for now, TOM

Thanks for the reply Richard. I indeed tried the latest driver, 91.31. The new control panel was quite confusing. I managed to get to the performance and quality place, but there was no way to set a color profile to a specific game, so keeping the same drivers, I went back to the classic control panel. Color profiles can't seem to be applied for game profiles, as the value in the profile switches to a "0" every time I hit apply (read that some other guy on the nZone forums had the same issues). So as of now, I just use the 84.21 drivers and set the color profile manually in the taskbar.
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