Printer and paper profiles

I use Photoshop CS on a Mac G4 (PPC) with OS X 10.4.11. My printer is an Epson Stylus Photo R340 inkjet with 6 colours.
I set out a couple of days ago to print a lot of greeting cards — A5 cards that fold to A6. The ones I got were matte ones, which I had never used before. I used the 'Print with preview' option with the following settings: Color Management / Document: Adobe RGB (1998) / Proof (not checked): U.S. Sheetfed Uncoated v2 / Intent: Relative Colorimetric / Black Point Compensation not checked.
Since I believe that my Epson SPR340 printer has the same colour characteristics as the SPR350, I chose a profile from the available Epson SPR350 profiles; namely MPHW (which is for heavy-weight matte paper). The results were terrible, with pale, washed-out colours. After hours of experimentation, during which I used up almost my entire stock of cards, I discovered that I could get good results (but with slightly overemphasised reds) with the same profile as the default proof profile (which, however, I have not checked), namely U.S. Sheetfed Uncoated v2,and even better results with the Epson Standard RGB – Gamma 1.8 profile.
I have now ordered a new supply of cards, but glossy ones, with which I have a little more experience, so I shall have to experiment some more, though these cards are supposed to be in the post in the next day or two in time to be delivered for Christmas. But I should be immensely grateful for any explanation or advice: why did the profile for my type of printer and matte paper, printing on matte cards, give such terrible results? What profile should I use for my new glossy cards? (My instinct would be to use the SPR350 profile PGPP, i.e. for premium glossy paper, but my experience with the matte cards has made me sceptical.) Any other information about profiles that anyone is able to offer?
Thank you in anticipation.

Michael Graubart wrote:
I use Photoshop CS on a Mac G4 (PPC) with OS X 10.4.11. My printer is an Epson Stylus Photo R340 inkjet with 6 colours…
…Since I believe that my Epson SPR340 printer has the same colour characteristics as the SPR350, I chose a profile from the available Epson SPR350 profiles; namely MPHW (which is for heavy-weight matte paper). The results were terrible, with pale, washed-out colours…
Totally to be expected, Michael. One can't do that, not even remotely!
The profile, if not custom made for your specific combination of paper, ink and printer, MUST be provided by the paper manufacturer for each specific printer model, and it will only be good for that particular printer, using the same ink on that particular paper.
You can't "approximate".
Never buy a paper for which the vendor cannot supply you with a specific profile for your particular printer and ink. It's that simple.
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