Printer compatability for my G4

I have a powermac G4 using OSX 10.4.11 and also loaded with system 9 which I still use for some of my older applications. I've been using macs for years but am now a late comer to OSX. I'm looking at an HP 8500 jet printer to use with this computer. According to the box, it is compatable with the OSX. My question is what happens if I'm using one of my system 9 apps? Will I be able to print from one of them? If not directly is there a work around that works well in order to move the doc from 9 to 10 to print? Any help would be appreciated.

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You should be able to print from Classic in OS X.
My HP printers always do, though the later models don't support background printing in Classic.

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    the method mentioned by benwiggy will certainly work.  If you want to an option that would give you more options, you could use a PDF Service.  You could then put a specific job on hold while still allowing others to use the printer.
    You can do this by opening AppleScript Editor (/Applications/Utilities).  You can copy and paste the following into an editor window --
    on open printJobs
    tell application "Finder"
    set trapFile to quoted form of POSIX path of (printJobs as string)
    end tell
    set defaultPrinter to do shell script "lpstat -d | awk -F: '{print $2}'"
    do shell script "lpr -P" & defaultPrinter & " -q " & trapFile
    end open
    Save the file as an Application.  You can name it something like Hold Print Job.  Then just put it in the PDF Services directory in the Library directory of your Home folder <yourname>/Library/PDF Services.  You may need to make the PDF Services directory as it may not already be there.
    Once the file is in place, you can use it by using the PDF drop down menu at the bottom left of a print window.  That will send the file to the printer and put it on hold.  Others can still use the printer.  You can then print your file whenever you want.  Just open the print queue as mentioned by benwiggy.  Highlight the job that is Paused.  You will see a little curly icon at the very right (looks like a reload icon in a web browser).  Just click that icon and the job will start printing.

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