Printing from classic OS9 from 10.3.9

Gentlemen:
I am running 10.3.9 on my iBook G4.
I have a Photoshop LE program that came with a Wacom tablet, which opens up in Classic and works splendidly.
However, when I try to print from it, I'm asked to choose the printer, Epson Stylus Photo RX620, it then won't print.
For that matter I can't print anything at all in Classic and the printer works perfect in Panther.
I was going to make a trip to the Apple Store where I'm sure they will tell me something real simple that I didn't see.
Maybe someone here can save me that embarassment.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
iBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9) Started with Apple 2e

Hello Again Jeff!
Why would your iMac G3 have anything to do with the printing problem on the G4?
Maybe the OS 9 compatible driver, that I posted a link to, in My Previous Reply, has that driver installed.
You wrote "I thought that when I installed the drivers that they would automatically be transferred into Classic."
I didn't find that to be the case, when I used to use Classic.
I had an older Lexmark printer that needed a driver installed in both OS 9 & OS X.
Bob Gold also suggested "You should be able to find the OS 9 drivers at Epson..."
Here again, as I posted in my previous response, is the link to the page, where the OS 9 Epson Stylus Photo RX620 can be found.
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I am sure some of what I am about to ask is/has been covered in the numerous threads under this section, but I have a time crunch on and need help (the Mac is my wife's, but I get to do the tech support since I work in IT [management now, not hands on any more and when it was hands on, it was 8 years ago, SGI's IRIX OS and apps support, not 'hardware'] and she has a deadline approaching).
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I have an upgraded G4 sawtooth which was running MacOS9 prior to the upgrades.
During the upgrades (to fully benefit from the numerous enhancements with Tiger [10.4.6 retail version]) I had to go to MacOS9.2 (via MacOS9.1) which I did via the downloads page on the apple site.
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Under OSX, the printer still works, but I do not see it in the chooser when running in classic (should i be able to?) and I am unable to access any of the printer specific utilities (like head cleaning, alignment, ink levels etc). I have the drivers from Epson for OSX installed and the drivers for 8.? - 9.2 were installed and working prior to slapping OSX on the system. I believe that I have the Epson OSX driver selected for use by anything needing printing in OSX (after referencing article <http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4682179&#4682179> in a response from Matt Broughton to an earlier question) but am not convinced; the print interface looks suspiciously similar to the GIMP stuff that worked 'out of the box' with the Tiger install and I still get no access to the utilities allowing me to maintain print quality.
I read in another thread that OSX does not allow classic to access 'hardware'.
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- If I 'boot' into the original 9.2, am I really using native 9.2, or is it still classic and am I still 'wrapped' in OSX?
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- Is it down to proper re-selection of the original extensions for the old MacOS9 setup?
I have yet to install the OSX drivers for the scanner, but similar questions arise;
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OK, the printing issues are resolved, it was down to extensions being disabled, nothing more.
Still a problem with the scanner. It works OK in OSX. However, in Classic, from Photoshop 5.5, when going to Import->Twain Acquire, I get informed ...
'Cannot find the scanner on the bus
Please ensure that it is switched on, ready to scan and that the cables are attached corectly'
Without wishing to sound irked, the scanner is on, ready to scan and cabled correctly (hence working in OSX!)
After clicking OK, the next msg is ...
'Could not complete the Import command because there is no scanner installed.'
Which again is bogus, since the scanner is installed.
I uninstalled TWAIN with the scanner detached, then re-installed per the instructions regarding upgrading systems. I also did the TWAIN re-install on OS9 first, prior to installing it on OSX, again per the instructions for TWAIN on OSX.
Starting to think fondly of sledge-hammers now, so somebody please help.
For now, I have a work around (use Epson Scan in OSX to scan an image, then open that in PS ...) but still would like to be able to get it to work from inside PS, as it used to before OSX.

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Hi Folks! I've tried unsuccessfully for 3 years now to print from classic. If I really need to print from one of my OS9 apps I usually just put the file in the OS9 computer (that's why I keep it) and print from there by just unplugging the printer from the OSX computer and plugging it into the OS9 computer. It's not the drivers or the printer as all of that's installed. I suspect is has to do with print spooling and background printing but I've tinkered with this for a LOOOOOG time with no success. Tom

Thomas Bryant wrote:
Hi Folks! I've tried unsuccessfully for 3 years now to print from classic. If I really need to print from one of my OS9 apps I usually just put the file in the OS9 computer (that's why I keep it) and print from there by just unplugging the printer from the OSX computer and plugging it into the OS9 computer. It's not the drivers or the printer as all of that's installed. I suspect is has to do with print spooling and background printing but I've tinkered with this for a LOOOOOG time with no success. Tom
I suspect that you're using an HP inkjet. I have several HP inkjets, and all of them, without fail, simply refuse to print from Classic _using the HP drivers_. (Tiger fixed things so I can print. See below.) In all cases, attempting to print in the background works just fine, right up to where the spool file has been created and is about to actually go to the printer. I then get an error, on some printers, indicating that the file cannot be printer. On others, Classic simply either freezes or crashes. If I restart Classic, it'll freeze or crash again as soon as the print system attempts to print that file. If I delete the spool file, all is fine... except that I didn't get any output. The HPs started misbehaving with Panther. My Epson inkjet still works, so I suspect the problem ain't Apple's fault. The problem goes away if I boot the machine in OS 9... where it's possible to boot the machine in OS 9.
If I try to print from the foreground instead, I just move things up. Now I get the error message, freeze, or crash immediately instead of waiting for the spool file to be created.
That said, printing from Classic is simple... if you are not using a HP or Lexmark non-PostScript inkjet printer and are trying to print from Panther. (Jaguar and HP wasn't a good match, either, but at least sometimes you'd get output.) Given that most (not all, though...) Epson and Canon inkjets and all PostScript devices, even inkjets, were able to print, I suspect that HP's and Lexmarks' drivers have problems.
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I can’t print out of Classic environment because the printer (HP Laserjet 1300) isn’t installed there. My computer does not have dual boot. (That is, it can run classic, but not boot up in classic.) I've read some related posts and have tried some suggestions, but so far to no avail.
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Looking at the 9 driver for LaserJet 1300 HP offers for download, anyway, it isn't actually a driver - it's merely an installer which, from either X or 9, should give you Printer Description Files to use with the standard PostScript drivers, namely LaesrWriter 8 or AdobePS.
Test that it did that much by using Apple's Desktop Printer Utility to create a virtual desktop printer… If the Change button in PostScript Printer Definition (PPD) File pane leads to a Printer Descriptions list that does include HP LaserJet 1300 Series that much, at least, seems to have worked.
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