Printing from Classic

I can no longer print from Classic (v 9.2)but printing from OS 10.1.5 is fine. Printing from Classic was not a problem until I tried to network my G4 with a PC. After several attempts, changing settings (airport, ethernet etc)I gave up and reset for printing in OS 10.
The printer is a Personal laserwriter 320. In classic when I print the message is Laserwriter 320 could not be found. I have tried changing settings etc. but can not get it to print.
Any suggestions
G4 Mac OS X (10.1.x) Mac OS 9.2

I hope that's enough for someone else to now take this further…
An AsantéTalk ethernet to LocalTalk bridge should plug in and work with no configuration, so that shouldn't be part of the problem.
AppleTalk does need to be on, but it doesn't need zones; that's just a option for more sophisticated, managed networks.
You probably need to turn off all other networking, including AirPort, and I guess TCP/IP needs to be set to Configure: Manually, not Using DHCP, etc.
Pure, bootable OS 9 is what you invoked when you changed the startup disk to use the classic 9 which opened to the 9 desktop… as opposed to Classic, which bars some features so a cut-down version of OS 9 can run over X… the point here being that misconfiguration in X can effect 9 utilities, particularly at the level where peripherals including printers ineract with the system, and some things which perfectly happy in pure 9 are simply incompatible with Classic over X.

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Thomas Bryant wrote:
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Welcome To Discussions sweethart!
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