Printing from CS5, Photoshop Manages Colors

I only do photo quality prints to Epson matte a few times a year so I run test prints with various settings to get what I want. My granddaughters wanted some prints from a web site framed and my wife wanted prints of an emailed photo of their old mountain cabin. I had to do some color manipulation of the cabin, but the web site images had been expertly processed and all I had to do was print properly. I experimented with the cabin image print settings. Epson changed the names of all their papers, so the Epson print profiles in the print dialog didn't match the name on the matte paper box. I deciphered that, but I wasn't happy with the result so I tried two of the other Epson profiles and hated it. There's quite a long list of profiles available, some specific, and some just conventional color spaces like sRGB, aRGB. For the heck of it I tried Pro Photo RGB as a printer to paper profile. The print of the cabinimage with an embedded aRGB profile was everything I could want. I did the web site sRGB images the samwe way and they were really nice.
The puzzle is this: What does using Pro Photo RGB as an instruction to the printer cocerning what it is printing to thru Photoshop even mean? The printer has never heard of the colors possible in Pro Photo, and the source image is in sRGB ( verified by Photoshop). I can conceive that an RAW image should be rendered as aRGB for inkjet and that the inkjet has some blues that are outside the aRGB, but I can't understand telling an inkjet to use Pro Photo to print sRGB.
Maybe gator soup knows what I'm trying to get at.

you have a choice of Color Sync or Epson (on a Mac
in the "Photoshop Manages Colors" work flow, you shouldn't be concerning yourself with ColorSync (or Epson controls)
you do have Adobe (ACE) set as the Conversion Options: Engine (in Ps Edit> Color Settings> More Options> Conversion Options )?
but let me go over the basic framework of this workflow in CS5:
it may be a wise move to delete your printer from Print & Fax and add it back (as well as updating to the latest driver)
1) Open a copy of WhackedRGB PDI test image in Photoshop
USE THE EMBEDDED PROFILE (do not convert)
confirm the "Document Profile" in the lower-left corner of Ps window
2) File> Print will pull up this window (below)
DOCUMENT PROFILE is WhackedRGB.icc
PRINTER PROFILE is your specific printer/paper/ink ICC profile
RENDERING INTENT (try Perceptual)
BLACK POINT COMPENSATION (try checking this)
if you are using CS6 be sure to uncheck 16-bit color
3) click on Printer Settings... and Printer Settings> Basic to pull up the following screenshot
Media Type is the "type" of paper surface (not an ICC profile)
Color Mode: Off (No Color Management) should be grayed (using Photoshop Manages Colors)
AT THIS POINT HITTING SAVE> PRINT is the correct move to start the printing
you don't need to monkey around the other areas under this basic tutorial
if you want to look at Advanced Color Settings to verify driver color management is "off" (for all practical purposes) -- click on Color Settings and confirm:
here is a more complete EPSON CS5 PRINTING TUTORIAL using an older version of the Epson 7880 print driver
here is a more complete EPSON CS6 PRINTING TUTORIAL
i hope this helps...

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CS5 print dlg reverts to 'Photoshop Manages Colors'

Hello! I'm struggling with the Print dialog box in CS5 (12.0.4 x64). I want to apply printer color adjustments to a print job. I choose 'Printer Manages Colors' then open the Print Settings dialog for the printer, make the changes I want then click OK. On returning to the Photoshop Print dialog I see that where I had chosen 'Printer Manages Colors' has reverted to 'Photoshop Manages Colors.' If I open the printer properties dialog again I find the settings set to default rather than to the settings I had just previously selected.
FYI, under Printer Profile in the Photoshop Print dialog the printer's ICM profile is selected.
Any idea what is happening? What more information can I furnish here that would be helpful?
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Keyboard Rosewill Cherry MX Switch (Brown) Mechanical Keyboard
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Printer Epson Stylus Photo R280

you have a choice of Color Sync or Epson (on a Mac
in the "Photoshop Manages Colors" work flow, you shouldn't be concerning yourself with ColorSync (or Epson controls)
you do have Adobe (ACE) set as the Conversion Options: Engine (in Ps Edit> Color Settings> More Options> Conversion Options )?
but let me go over the basic framework of this workflow in CS5:
it may be a wise move to delete your printer from Print & Fax and add it back (as well as updating to the latest driver)
1) Open a copy of WhackedRGB PDI test image in Photoshop
USE THE EMBEDDED PROFILE (do not convert)
confirm the "Document Profile" in the lower-left corner of Ps window
2) File> Print will pull up this window (below)
DOCUMENT PROFILE is WhackedRGB.icc
PRINTER PROFILE is your specific printer/paper/ink ICC profile
RENDERING INTENT (try Perceptual)
BLACK POINT COMPENSATION (try checking this)
if you are using CS6 be sure to uncheck 16-bit color
3) click on Printer Settings... and Printer Settings> Basic to pull up the following screenshot
Media Type is the "type" of paper surface (not an ICC profile)
Color Mode: Off (No Color Management) should be grayed (using Photoshop Manages Colors)
AT THIS POINT HITTING SAVE> PRINT is the correct move to start the printing
you don't need to monkey around the other areas under this basic tutorial
if you want to look at Advanced Color Settings to verify driver color management is "off" (for all practical purposes) -- click on Color Settings and confirm:
here is a more complete EPSON CS5 PRINTING TUTORIAL using an older version of the Epson 7880 print driver
here is a more complete EPSON CS6 PRINTING TUTORIAL
i hope this helps...

I have lost the photoshop manages color option from my print menu in CS6.

I have lost the photoshop manages color option from my print menu in CS6. It now has colorsync manages color as an option along with printer manages color. I don't know how to reverse this and I can no longer use my printer with any assurance of accurate color.
What could have caused this & how do I reverse it?

Assuming you have not gone to a newer version of WORD and it is just an update issue, then you should be able to go to the addins in the options of word and enable Acrobat. Sometimes the updates of WORD seem to disable the plugin. Note that the plugin is PDF Maker and shows up in the save as menu as well as an Adobe menu item in WORD. The printer is a separate process and does no require activation.
A repair of Acrobat may also solve the problem.

Why is a color print from CS5 so different from the same image in CS4?

I have made prints from the same file using CS4 and CS5, and the prints from CS4 are showing what I think is good color. My monitor is calibrated, and I have always been quite happy with prints from CS4. When I make prints of the same files using CS5, the color is terrible compared to the CS4 print. I am using the same printer, same sRGB color space and all the settings in the "Print" dialog windows. I make sure the Color Handling box is set to "Photoshop Manages Colors" and I then go to the "Page Setup" box and make sure Color Settings is set to Off (No Color Adjustments). I am using a New MacPro Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 16 GB ram. I did notice that Apple Software Update did install Epson drivers after I installed CS5 Creative Suite 5 Design Premium. The color using CS5 looks the same starting in either 32 bit or in 64 bit. Another thing I notice is that printing on an Epson 2200 Stylus and using their 13x19 paper that the prints are being cropped to 5/8 inch into the full screen size of the images. I.E. The prints are losing 5/8 inch of what I see on the 30" Apple monitor. in both dimensions of the screen image. This cropping effect is showing now using CS4 and CS5. I have "Position" checked for Center Image, and Scale to Fit Media is also checked. I've been using PS since version 2 and have always been quite happy with the prints from my Epson printers and the prints from my Photo Lab, but the prints I am getting using CS5 are terrible. All the settings are the same in both the CS4 and CS5 "PRINT" windows.
HELP!!!! :-)

I have tried all of these things. I have checked and double-checked the print dialog. Sheet after sheet of paper goes by. Ink, at $40 per tank, is wasted. Results are still wrong. I followed your video. You use an Epson printer. I use an HP. Different print dialogs. different results. Whatever worked in previous PS versions does not work now. PS CS5 requires new settings to get the results that match what was determined by years of evolution and fine-tuning.
I set up all of those print dialog parameters but it required an adjustment layer or two to get the results I got using previous Photoshop. So I could do that with every image I printed with good results using previous versions. There is nothing out of gamut in these images, so I don't have unrealistic expectations about more saturation in the prints. Anyway, it's an 8-color printer that can handle a pretty wide gamut compared to a 4-color.
Wade, I know you are trying to help but this finger-wagging "error in your ways" and "you need to change your ways" stuff is patronizing. I did "change my ways" and try everything in your video. All was not well on the paper. I'm glad it worked out for you but it didn't for me. Accept it. I'm not some novice hobbyist still getting the hang of Photoshop. I've been using Photoshop since version 2. Adobe changed something in CS5. I haven't seen Chis Cox or any Adobe staffer jump into this discussion and say otherwise. Maybe there are no answers from the folks who should know the most about it. Maybe they're working on it.
It's not the first time Adobe has broken a tool. Anyone remember what happened to Outline Stroke in Illustrator CS2? It had previously made a path that could be edited by selecting points but after CS2, it was broken. Illustrator made a filled path that was nearly impossible to edit with all of the overlapping points. It was finally fixed in CS4. It's hard to understand how a useful tool that functioned properly in every version since it was introduced became an unusable mess. Maybe that's the case with PS CS5 and printing.
With 4,300+ posts in 14 months, maybe Wade has more time to tinker and tell us about it. I don't.
Or I could just print in CS4. At this point it's not that important to spend several days of testing to be able to say that CS5 can print my legacy stuff that was created and printed with various color profiles over a 12 year period. Maybe a more disciplined approach to color management would be a good way to work in the future when creating images, I'm dealing with tried-and-true printable images that were not done that way.
As long as Adobe doesn't make me give up CS4 to use CS5, I'll use it for printing.

Epson R1900 dark prints from CS5

I had Photoshop 7.0 on my PC and printed to an Epson Stylus Photo R1900 with great results.
I purchased a MacBook Pro and tried printing some of the same art prints (transferred via hard drive) using Photoshop CS5 and the same Epson R1900 printer. The prints are very dark!! I switched to 'Printer manages color' on the advice of an Epson technician who said PS is managing color based on 4 ink colors. The Epson has eight colors. I have tried multiple settings, I bought a Color Munki and calibrated my monitor. I still can't get the same quality print that I got using my old PC and version 7.0 of Photoshop. Has anyone else solved this problem yet? I have found numerous comments online about the Epson R1900 printing too DARK!

I took my Epson R1900 printer to Washington State University and asked the printer technician to see if he could help.
The instructor and technician were co-teaching my photography class that included adjusting our digital photos in Camera raw and using correct settings in Photoshop to make prints. My prints turned out perfect on the WSU Epson. They were too dark on my R1900-(terrible actually.) I had a photo of mallard chicks with dark brown feathers, on my Epson R1900 they printed out with almost black brown feathers. The instructors tried adjustments (Photoshop manages colors), adjusting curves, and got the same result I did.
We then tested to see if it was my Mac. We used the same image and printed to my Epson from the WSU Macintosh computers. This same image had printed perfectly on the schools Epson but printed dark on my Epson. Same settings. They suggested that I buy a different printer. The instructor said he had colleagues that had experienced similar problems. I just keep hoping I can find a solution rather than buying new.

CS6: Can't switch off color management in the printerdriver when photoshop manages colors

So this is weird: I'm using CS6 Extended and Lightroom 5 on a Windows 7 Pro machine, printing to an old Canon Pixma Ip5200R. When i print from Lightroom, i am using a special printer profile for the pixma and my photopaper, so color management is switched off in the printer driver. The photos print fine.
Now when i print the same photo from CS6, it has a magenta color cast, so clearly something is wrong with the color management. Even though i am using the same printer, the same paper, the same printer profile and - of course! - had set photoshop to manage the colors, and switched color managent off in the printer driver. The magenta cast could be an indication that the photo is double colormanaged.
It took my quite a while to find out what happens, and this is really weird: When i re-checked the printer driver settings, i noticed that the color management settings did not stick. The canon printer driver offers the options "driver matching" "windows ICM" "none", e.g. having color management done by the printer driver or windows, or switch color management off. So when i go to the PS print settings and set it to "photoshop manages colors", add the correct printer profile, i have to check the settings in the printer driver and make sure that color management is set to "none". I set it to "none" and click OK. Now everything should be configured correctly. But it's not - because when i re-check the print driver settings, i see color management is set to "diver matching". I can go to the print driver settings again and agian, but whenever i check, color management is set to "driver matching". This setting simply does not stick. No wonder i get a mangenta cast on my prints, the colors are doublemanaged by photoshop AND my printer driver.
Now, this is getting weirder: Only the color management settings don't stick. I can change other settings like print quality and the stick.
But - how do i get rid of this? The culprit seems to be photoshop, not the printer driver. If i print from lightroom, i can change the color management settings in the (very same) printer driver and they stick. When i set the photoshop print dialogue to "printer manages colors" i can change the color management settings in the (very same) printer driver - and they stick! So this looks as if photoshop stops me intentionally from using the correct printer driver settings, that is from switching off the printer drivers color management if it is set to manage colors.
I have already resetted my personal photoshop preferences, but this changed nothing. What am i missing? What is going wrong? Your help is very appreciated.
Tobias

Hi all, Just to let you know that I finally solved my problem myself.
Essentially what had occurred was that I had updated my Epson driver for my printer , but it hadn't installed, despite informing me that it had! To cut a long story short when I checked in System preferences the older driver for Leopard O/S was still the current driver. I proceeded to ask Epson support for assistance, bu despite their efforts I could not immediately resolve the problem. They were directing me to my Utilities program to remove all traces of my current driver from Printer Utility which did not exist. When I queried this they stated it was not always visible and I should proceed to the next step then install the new driver. Problem was they required me to access this invisible utility in order to complete this process, and yes before you ask I had informed them I was using an Intel Mac with Snow Leopard 10.6.2 O/S. Finally I ignored their advice and took the following steps:
1. I opened System Preferences and double clicked the Printer & Fax icon.
2. I highlighted my Epson R2400 Pinter and removed it by clicking the minus sign at the bottom of the Printers window.
3. Next I did a search and deleted any old drivers for my R2400 that were on my system with the exception of the new Driver.
4. I restarted my Mac Pro.
5. I reinstalled my new printer driver which I had previously downloaded from Epson Support.
6. I restarted my Mac Pro and found that the new driver had installed correctly and full functionality had been returned to the Print Features Dialogue box i.e I could now turn of color management and access advanced features to set the quality of printing using the full spec of the R2400.
Hope this post will be helpful to others if they have a similar problem
Regards Denis
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Cannot print from cs5 to epson r1900 windows 7

when I hit "print settings" I get a message that says big red x -- "because the requested printer does not exist". I can't accesss my printer setup settings, page orientation, etc
I have my usual workflow, eg "Document profile - Adobe RGB, Photoshop Manages color
please advise. thank you....

I'm having the same problem with my HP Z3100 in Windows 7 64-bit
The kludgy workaround is to choose a different printer from the "Printer" drop down list at the top, then re-choose the printer you wanted in the first place.
But at least you don't have to quit Photoshop to start printing.
(Careful - your choices in color management may change to defaults when you re-choose your printer.)
Sam

Printing from CS5 Extended

I have upgraded my iMac to Mountain Lion and now I cannot print from CS5 extended version 12.0 x 64. Have you a patch for this please. As a Photography tutor, it is essential to have this working correctly.
Kind regards
Norman Moulsley

Hi Norman - because the forum you originally posted in is for beginners trying to learn the basics of Photoshop, I moved your question to the Photoshop General Discussion forum, where you'll get more specialized help.
To help others help you, please read through this article and provide any additional relevant details.

[none] on center of page when printing from CS5

All of the sudden a [none] is printing accross everything I print from CS5. There is no error message and the print goes through without a problem.
I can print from MS word and other programs without a problem. I'm printing to an HP3800 and my OS is Win7.
Any help would be appreciated!

I did the ctrl-alt-shift pressed while starting photoshop. I also uninstalled the only plugin I had installed.
Below is the last bit of information from the Help -> System Info....
Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE
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Installed TWAIN devices: NONE
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NOTE: The proof I am currently trying to print is flat....
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Why can't I print from CS5? Mac and Snow Leopard

I can't print from CS5. I have a Canon Pro 9000 MKII, and all drivers are up to date. Whenever I need to print I have to close the image and reopen it in CS4. I have an iMac running Snow Leopard and can print from all other programs.
When I do try to print from CS5, I get a dialog box (see attached). If I click the "Cancel" button (the only option) the print command in the menu is grayed out until I restart CS5. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

One other thing to try is changing the name of the printer queue, which may convince Photoshop and the system that it's a different printer, so old print settings will not be used.
Open your System Preferences, select "Print & Fax", and then select your printer.
Click the "Open Print Queue..." button. When that opens, select the "Printer Setup" icon (it should be rightmost in the top row), and then change the name of the printer. and OK.

My photos are not printing right with adobe manages color but works when i use printer manages color. never had any issues untill a week ago.

my photos are not printing right with adobe manages color but works when i use printer manages color. never had any issues untill a week ago.

We use CS6, yes we calibrate using x-rite. I have always had adobe manage colors when printing. This problem just occurred, all my settings are the same as they have been for years. The only thing we did lately is do an update to CS6. We thought it might be our printer but when we use the printer manages color it works fine, The problem with adobe manages color is it is not blending the light highlights like on top of the cheeks with the colors around the cheeks and its putting a faint red between the two it just does not have a smooth transition. I printed a photo that I had printed 4 months ago with no issue, and this time it had the issue that I am dealing with now. Somehow the photo shop manages color is not getting the right info to my printer.
I set paper type
set quality
no color adjustment
set my profile
Teri

Can't print from my photoshop elements 10

I can't print to my Epson R3000 printer from the Photoshop Elements 10 I have installed on a Mac OS 1.7.5

Are you using Organizer
Create >> Photo Prints >> Print With Local Printer
If so try from Full Edit:
File >>Print
Then click the print button to open the OSX print dialog.

Error printing from Adobe Photoshop CS

I have Mac OS v10.3.
I am in a business environment and print to networked Xerox printers.
Whenever I print from Adobe Photoshop CS to any printer the images are chopped up and I get errors on my prints: Error: ioerror Offending Command: readstring Stack: followed by a couple of lines of misc characters.
I can print fine from any other program but Photoshop. I have tried reinstalling Photoshop without any luck. I also have all of my Mac OS updates installed. Any suggestions?

You posted in the wrong forum, and an admin moved it for you.
Unfortunately the error is from the printer driver, not Photoshop.
Assuming you're using the latest version of Photoshop (12.0.4 or 12.1), you need to contact HP for an updated driver to fix their bugs.
(if you don't have the latest version - go update now)

How to print from iphone to hp color laserjet CM1017 MFP printer

How to print from iphone to hp color laserjet CM1017 MFP printer

In order to AirPrint from your iPad/iPhone, here's all you need to do:
1. Make sure the printer and iPad/iPhone are connected to the same local network.
2. Open something you want to print (on the iPad/iPhone).
3. On the iPad/iPhone, tap the "Action" button (arrow curving out of a box).
4. Tap "Print".
If you have any issues with printing, below are some steps that should help you out!
1. Power off the printer.
2. Completely power off the iOS devices (hold the Sleep and Home buttons simultaneously until a message appears asking you to "Slide to power off". Slide across that bar, and it should completely power off).
3. Power the printer back on.
4. Power the iOS devices back on.
5. Try to print again.
Those steps usually resolve the issue. If they do not, try this additional steps:
6. Power cycle your router (usually done by unplugging the router’s power cord, waiting 20 seconds, and plugging it back in).
7. Make sure that the iOS devices and the printer are all connected to the same network, then try to print.
If I have SOLVED your issue, please feel free to provide KUDOS and make sure you mark this thread as SOLUTION PROVIDED!
Although I work for HP, my posts and replies are my own opinion and not those of HP.

Printing from Adobe Photoshop CS5 on a HP Color Laserjet CP5225 printer

Hi
When I want to print something out from Photoshop CS5 on my printer I get this error.
PCL XL Error
Subsystem: KERNEL
Error: IllegalOperatorSequence
File name: derived_scr/1x55.ndbg.kernel.c
Line number: 1820
My windows system is Windows xp proffesional with servicepack 3.
If I print out from other program I don´t get any errors.
This is a new printer and before I got this I had a HP Color Laserjet CP5225 and there were no
problems printing out from Adobe Photoshop CS5.
I really hope someone can help my quickly because I have some tickets I have to print out for tomorrow.
Kind regards

You posted in the wrong forum, and an admin moved it for you.
Unfortunately the error is from the printer driver, not Photoshop.
Assuming you're using the latest version of Photoshop (12.0.4 or 12.1), you need to contact HP for an updated driver to fix their bugs.
(if you don't have the latest version - go update now)

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