Printing from Lightroom with Epson 3800

I have tried all sorts of things and I can't seem to figure out how to print on an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper.
Here's what I'm using.
MAC 10.5.8
Lightroom 2.5
Epson print Driver 6.11
What do I need to do to print what I see in my print window. (see screenshot)
So far my results have been:
1. not centered on the long side (the 11" edge)
2. about 3/8" trimmed off on the leading edge.
I've tried borderless well.

The paper is 8.5 x 11, at least that's what the package says.
It's the Premium Luster Photo Paper 50 pack.
I have tried borderless (Retain size). The results are even worse.
It prints to the edge but also cuts off 3/8" of image on the leading edge.
And the the image is not centred on the 11" side.

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Just a reminder for those who missed that thread (I guess this fix also
applies to LR 1 although I didn't check):
[FIX] Darker prints and color shifts when printing from Lightroom 2
(this is for Windows - Mac users please look here for a similar fix:
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr_13_print/lightroom_print.htm )
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When printing RAW or TIFF files from LR2, you get a printer output that
is much darker than it should be and that presents various color shifts.
I'm using an Epson Stylus Pro 3800 with the latest Windows driver
(6.50 - which is rather old by the way). The workaround described below
works for me under Windows XP SP3. It should also probably work with
other systems/printers/drivers. Use at your own (minor) risk.
The "official" procedure for printing from LR is as follows:
1. Do not let the printer manage colors and select "Other..." from the
profile dropdown list and select the ICC/ICM paper/printer profile that
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2. Click on Print... in LR which opens the Print Settings dialog.
3. Select the options you need and the paper you're using.
4. *Disable the color management from the driver's side* (in Epson's
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print that is dark and has color shifts as mentioned above. Note that
the same image prints correctly from QImage or Photoshop CS3 (that is,
the printer output corresponds to what you see on your calibrated
display).
Apparently, although color management has been (allegedly) disabled in
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makes that both LR and the driver are still trying to manage colors. In
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seem to work with LR.
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expensive ink wasting):
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1. Instead of selecting "No Color Adjustments", set Mode to "Custom |
ICM
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3. Check "Show all profiles".
4. Select Driver ICM (Advanced)"
5. Set *both* the "Input profile" and the "Printer profile" fields to
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color shifts.
One might think that the bug is in the Epson driver but in that case,
QImage would have the very same problem. So I tend to think that the bug
is on the Lightroom side.
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