Printing ICC Profile Targets

Can you use Aperture to print printer profile targets without any colour management. Maybe I'm missing something but I cannot see how this can be done. If this has already been answered can you point me in the right direction cannot find anything myself. Thanks.

Can you use Aperture to print printer profile targets without any colour management. Maybe I'm missing something but I cannot see how this can be done. If this has already been answered can you point me in the right direction cannot find anything myself. Thanks.

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    Thomas
    Wow - thanks for such a comprehensive post.
    I have Aperture and a 2400 so this information is exceptionally useful to me.
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    Step Seven: Print and Pray. (And pray I haven't missed a step - sorry I'm not at my Mac. From your initial post, it sounds like you know how to do all of this.)
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    In fairness, I would really wish that guy from Apple should have said a little more obvious and precise with his definition of fairly accuracy with monitors. It doesn't says what kind of monitors he refers to. Low quality, cheap monitors deliver good results? Lot of factors need to be looked at for consideration for yourself.
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    Hope some of thoughtfu perspective and experience be of some interest, and it is obvious that this discussion probably will attract some more excitement discussion, the more the better. So that every other Aperture users who have the similar issues, they'll definitely want to come to here... And learn and share.
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