Printing in Lightroom with icc

Hi,
I made printing profile with Spyder print and tried to print in lightroom with that icc.
Somehow colors are not corret, I made test print in spyder print program and profile is correct.
Also I did print in Aperture and colors where good as is should be.
So there is something wrong with setting in my Lightroom.
I'm using iMac and Mountain Lion.
Can you help me?

When you made the profiles, did you save them as version 2 or version 4 ICC profiles? You want to be using version 2 profiles (version 4 won't give you anything but perhaps problems–even if it may be the default version in the profile software).

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Thomas
Wow - thanks for such a comprehensive post.
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when printing from QImage or Photoshop. No more dark prints. No more
color shifts.
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QImage would have the very same problem. So I tend to think that the bug
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