Printing problems from lightroom

Since installing lightroom on my macbookpro which I use with a calibrated 23" apple cinema monitor I am unable to print successfully to my canon Ip8500 printer. The issue is that I get a much darker and dramatically warmer print than what I get onscreen. i am wondering if anyone else suffers the same problem and whether any solutions exist. If I preview before printing the onscreen preview is noticeably different to the actual file in Lightroom. i have tried letting lightroom manage colour through selecting the paper profile to no avail too.
Marc

>Not knowing what the "right" brightness should be - I printed out the sample picture supplied with the Spyder 2 pro and then compared it to the onscreen picture in daylight balanced light. I then adjusted the monitor brightness and calibrated several times before finally settling on a picture that was as close as I am likely to get to printout.
Marc,
Glad to hear that solved your problem. Care to tell us what specific luminance level (cd/m2) you finally settled on? It might help guide others; and of course keeping a record of that "special" value is useful (necessary?) whenever the need arises to "recalibrate" your monitor. I'm particularly curious to know if you needed to be at 100 cd/m2 or less, as I expected.
As to the method you used--I'm not sure from what you described that it's the approach I would recommend. I think the best procedure is (a) changing (lowering) the brightness followed by (b) editing a test image so that it looks "right" to you (i.e., on your "new" screen)--in other words it should have required some brightness boost to look like how you desire a print to appear. Then (c) you must print (or re-print) that image and compare that print--using a standard intensity/quality light source-- to what you are seeing on the monitor. If this new print still seems too dark, then further reduce monitor luminance (brightness) and re-edit the on-screen image to once again look correct; then re-print and compare print to monitor. In other words, the correct (IMHO) approach requires monitor brightness adjustment followed by re-editing followed by re-printing. If you skip the re-editing step (did you?) then you may simply have forced your monitor image to appear as as (excessively) dark as the "old" print you used for comparison. While this might seem to be equivalent to the process I recommend, I suspect it will lead to inconsistent results in the long run.
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