Printing Separations Help

I think I may be overlooking something but I can't seem to figure this out. I am creating 2 color files and need to print them to separations for the printer. I can do that fine but the quality of the raster images is really bad on the separations file, the vector parts are fine, also both are fine on the composite pdf. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

Printing from indesign to pdf printer. Here's the print summary, does that help?
Print Preset: [Custom]
Printer: Adobe PDF
PPD: Adobe PDF
PPD File: C:\Windows\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\ADPDF9.PPD
General
    Copies: 1
    Collate: N/A
    Reverse Order: Off
    Pages: All
    Sequence: All Pages
    Spreads: Off
    Print Master Pages: Off
    Print Layers: Visible & Printable Layers
    Print Non-printing Objects: Off
    Print Blank Pages: N/A
    Print Visible Guides and Baseline Grids: N/A
Setup
    Paper Size: Custom
    Paper Width: Auto
    Paper Height: Auto
    Page Orientation: Landscape
    Paper Offset: 0 in
    Paper Gap: 0 in
    Transverse: Off
    Scaling: 100%
    Constrain Proportions: On
    Page Position: Centered
    Thumbnails: N/A
    Tiling: Off
Marks and Bleed
    Crop Marks: Off
    Bleed Marks: Off
    Registration Marks: On
    Color Bars: Off
    Page Information: Off
    Printer Mark Type: Default
    Crop Mark Weight: 0.25 pt
    Mark Offset from Page: 0.0833 in
    Use Document Bleed Settings: On
    Bleed Top: 0 in
    Bleed Bottom: 0 in
    Bleed Inside: 0 in
    Bleed Outside: 0 in
    Include Slug Area: Off
Output
    Color: Separations
    Text As Black: N/A
    Trapping: Off
    Flip: None
    Negative: Off
    Screening: 71 lpi / 600 dpi
    Simulate Overprint: N/A
    Ink List
        Ink Name: Process Cyan
            Print: No
            Frequency: 63.2456
            Angle: 71.5651
            Sequence: 1
            Density: 0.61
            Type: Normal
        Ink Name: Process Magenta
            Print: No
            Frequency: 63.2456
            Angle: 18.4349
            Sequence: 2
            Density: 0.76
            Type: Normal
        Ink Name: Process Yellow
            Print: No
            Frequency: 66.6667
            Angle: 0
            Sequence: 3
            Density: 0.16
            Type: Normal
        Ink Name: Process Black
            Print: No
            Frequency: 70.7107
            Angle: 45
            Sequence: 4
            Density: 1.7
            Type: Normal
        Ink Name: PANTONE 186 U
            Print: No
            Frequency: 70.7107
            Angle: 45
            Sequence: 5
            Density: 0.717
            Type: Normal
        Ink Name: PANTONE 431 U
            Print: Yes
            Frequency: 70.7107
            Angle: 45
            Sequence: 6
            Density: 0.661
            Type: Normal
Graphics
    Send Data: All
    Download: Complete
    Download PPD Fonts: On
    PostScript®: Level 3
    Data Format: ASCII
Color Management
    Document Profile: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
    Color Handling: Let InDesign Determine Colors
    Printer Profile: Document CMYK - U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
    Preserve CMYK Numbers: On
    Proof Profile: N/A
    Simulate Paper Color: N/A
Advanced
    Print &as Bitmap: N/A
    Bitmap Resolution: N/A
    OPI Image Replacement: On
    EPS: Off
    PDF: Off
    Bitmap Images: Off
    Transparency Flattener Preset: [High Resolution]
    Ignore Spread Overrides: Off

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“I’ll never give you a job to print.”
Lead with an insult, good start.
You know, I read your comment, and the link, right before I went to bed. I thought I would respond then, but thought I should sleep on it. Well I slept on it, and I’m actually MORE p***ed off today than last night. I will try to keep this as professional as possible…
“Such an outdated time consuming workflow !!!”
No S**t (so much for professional). Which is why it’s unfortunate that Apple forced this workflow on people like me.
I asked SPECIFICALLY about color SEPARATIONS in the title of the post and throughout the post. The link you provided did not provide an answer to this. It explained how terrible “refrying” a PDF can be. And what was the solution it gave?
“Use EPS and not PostScript!”
Strange. it seems that is the EXACT workflow I listed! To quote myself;
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Which brings me back to the whole point of my post.
““Such an outdated time consuming workflow !!!”
Right, which is why I’m trying to avoid it. In reality, the entire process only involves 1 extra step over the PC workflow, and the Distill process literally takes a few seconds. But, I don’t want to Distill for all the reasons listed in the link you provided. And if i follow the advice of the link, saving to EPS, I DO NOT have the option of SEPARATIONS. Which is why I’m trying to save a PDF from AI, the use all the functionality of Acrobat Pro to SEPARATE my colors. Again, the manual to Acrobat says I can print my SEPARATIONS to a file, but I only have the option to print to my desktop printer from the Acrobat Print Dialog box, even though I have DO have other options in AI and InDesign.
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