Printing spreads

Anyone know if there's a way to print spreads from Pages - not much good having facing pages if you can't, I've tried the layout option in print dialog, but 2-up adds extra margin space - not true spread printing.

We're looking for what sounds like the same thing if anyone has an answer -- a way to print a booklet format such that if I'm print a 20-page document, sheet one would print (landscape) page 1 and page 20. On the back, it would print pages 2 and 19. The next sheet would print pages 3 and 18, ...
Chuck

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Ask in the ID forum. Sheet layout/ print pagination is usually handled by other software and the RIP/ printer driver, but I'm sure there's some feature for that or a plug-in that can do it, I just never use this stuff since I too rarely use ID...
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I have created a 12-page booklet in InDesign CS4. My printer only has CS3 and says they can't open the InDesign file I sent them, even though I sent a .inx file (made from exporting the file as cs3). I sent them a press quality pdf and they said they cannot use that because it is not printer spreads.
Can I make a pdf of printer spreads? When I choose Print Booklet, I only get choices to print to my printer.

Whenever the words printer and do your own imposing are put together, my mind goes to full-service copy shops or digital printers.
I use "printers" like this all the time, and they basically use better printers than my office can afford and have a few other extras for folding and binding. It can be useful, but it isn't offset.
IF this is the type of printer you mean, imposing yourself isn't so unusual. They often aren't set up for that, or will charge extra.
I use print booklet to generate the PDF to whatever standard they need. (I sure miss InBooklet.)
Again, if it's a copy shop setup, a flattened PDF is the way to go, and perhaps even RGB (many copy shops don't have ripping software).

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After installing CS5 Master Suite on my upgraded Mac OS X 10.6.2 MacBook I can't figure out how to do that though.
Has anyone figured this out?
Thanks,
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That's why I qualified it... "practically identical". Replace "Adobe PDF" with "Postscript File" and I found that it got me 90% of the way there so Eugene's point about it helping someone else with a similar need rang true in my case. I was already aware of the lack of the PDF Printer in SL, so that was moot detail for me. But that's the beauty of a an open forum IMO: even if you didn't find it helpful I don't think he should be discouraged or chastened for his effort because it helped me and could undoubtedly help others too.
Also, as an aside specific to the Adobe forums, even though I am not remotely as prolific a poster as some folks, I have frequently found resolutions to Mac questions in Windows threads and vice versa. Personally, I also don't find it terribly clear which flavor of a given software's forum I happen to be in when coming in cold from a Google search or the like... eg. Sure, one should read the OP thoroughly, but if you were just scanning and trying to help, simply looking at the top of this very thread there is quite literally no indication of whether this is a Mac or Windows InDesign question:
"I've seen this question asked many times for both Windows and Macs"... me too, and I think every bit of info to troubleshoot it and crowdsource solutions can only help. Even if we don't all have the luxury of dealing with "modern printers."

Print spread double-sided

Hello,
i have a nagging question that's been bugging me since i ever started using indesign CS4:
how do i print double-sided spreads in a single-side printer?
the print shops i work for(and myself of course) want me to print a makeshift of a book which i do using the print booklet option on 2-up spread, but they're consecutive and i haven't found any option to alternate spreads for single side printing. It'll all be ok if i had a double-sided printer so i'd use a driver setting and force doubleside on the printer itself, but without that option....
is this possible or wasn't even considered?, because the other solution is to print spread by spread and manually feeding each page back which is totally unproductive....

the print shops i work for(and myself of course) want me to print a makeshift of a book which i do using the print booklet option on 2-up spread, but they're consecutive and i haven't found any option to alternate spreads for single side printing. It'll all be ok if i had a double-sided printer so i'd use a driver setting and force doubleside on the printer itself, but without that option....
is this possible or wasn't even considered?, because the other solution is to print spread by spread and manually feeding each page back which is totally unproductive....
Like my answer of yesterday you can use the 2-up Consecutive feature of Print Booklet and enter you page numbers/order manually.
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InDesign PS file for booklet printer spreads

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Are the links up to date? Are you using the ADPDF9 PPD for the printer description file? You need to install that yourself.

Printing spreads question.

Hi all,
As an exercise, I copied my 11x17 folded brochure file and reformatted it into a 4 page 8.5x11 document to test some printing options.
I want to print pages 1 and 4, the front and back outside pages, together on a single 11x17 sheet. I selected print spread with range 4,1 but it prints (page 4 and a blank page) and (page 1 and a blank page) on two separate 11x17 pages apparently creating a spread by adding a blank page where there is no adjacent page. The range setting is ignored.
Is there a way to get InDesign to print any two pages on one sheet?

Print Booklet isn't very good at printing only selected spreads, so you might want to look at one of the scripts for imposition instead, or you could just do it manually for a four page doc. Start by creating a new section at page 4 and set the numbering to manual, start at 4. Now you can drag it to the left of page 1 and you'll have two spreads in the correct order.
If you've used automatic page numbering, though, you'll need to go back to the pages panel and start a new section again for page 1, or your document will show page numbers 4 through 7 instead of 4 and 1 through 3.
Or just use print booklet and print the whole thing to PDF, then print the selected spread to paper from Acrobat.
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I have printer spreads and the bleeds on the top bottom and right show up perfectly, but the left bleed is not there -- anyone have any experience with this? He used Indesign for this project and he is not sure why the left bleed seems to be missing on pdf....
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I consider this a bug, and reported it as such, but I'm not sure the engineers concur.
What's happening is that print function doesn't have an "inside" bleed concept, and uses the only top, bottom, left and right values. Inside and Outside are mapped to Left and Right, respectively, and your 0 inside bleed becomes 0 left bleed. It's quite easy to correct, by the way, in the dialogs when you are making your print. Just click the Print Setup button in Print Booklet, then in the Marks and Bleeds section, UNCHECK Use Document Bleed Settings and manually enter a value for all four sides.

InDesign printer spreads

Is there an automation / script
that can take InDesign (CS 4, 5.0 and 5.5) reader spread files and put then
into printer spreads. Have this done with in InDesign without using imposition software.

I hope you're getting a real bargain price on the printing for doing the impostion. I'm guessing creep is not an issue, so for files without crossovers you can use this one: http://pdsassoc.com/downloads/Buildbooklet.zip and for files with crossovers you can try Dave's CS3 Booklet Script
The first makes a shffled copy of your doc and you need to export spreads. The second imposes the pages by placing them into spread width pages.

How can I generate printer spreads when using an Indesign Book?

Our design team utilizes the Indesign Book feature to tackle magazine design. This convenient feature has become part of our workflow for both print and dps versions of the content since we do not work in the same locations yet share design responsibility. We're able to see when someone else is working in a "chapter" and keep our overall content synced.
Is there a way from the Indesign Book palette to generate a pdf that is in printer's spreads? The export options included within the Book Palette appear geared to reader spreads only. It seems the only automated option is to work from 1 large Indesign file and use the File > Print Booklet option. Is there a better solution that is geared more toward the Indesign Book user that offers the same outcome without a lot of manual work?

I usually (when needed as sometimes is) export the entire book to a PDF using the pdf settings- bleeds etc. but I don't include inside bleeds.
I then create a new document the original size - and use the MultiPage importer script http://indesignsecrets.com/zanelli-releases-multipageimporter-for-importing-both-pdf-and-i ndd-files.php
You can then offset the PDF to the bleed using a negative value in the placement options (it's tricky to get the hang of this so try a few pages first)
Then I can use File>Print Booklet and Choose PDF.
It's a hack and a half but it can work - but I'd never send this particular file to a printers to be printed.
As always - be careful.

Print spreads problem

I have a 4 page document that was set up without facing pages and all 4 pages in a row. Think of a fold out ad in the center of a magazine that folds out on both sides to reveal 4 separate but connected pages. Starting from the left, number the pages 1 thru 4. We now want to print out individual spreads 1-2, 2-3, and 4-5. No matter how we try, it always prints the center spread with a bit of the first and last pages showing. Like it is trying to print all 4 pages when we just want the two. I can print the individual pages with no problem or the entire 4 page spread at a reduced size but not pages 1-2 and 3-4 as separate 2 page spreads. How do I do that? This was an easy thing to do in Quark.

Sorry, used the wrong numbers. I was trying to make it simple. Yes it
is a double gatefold so there are 8 pages total. Two groups of four.
Our goal is to be able to print as a single spread on 12 x 18 paper
any two adjacent pages. That was something our clients got used to
with Quark. Allowed them to send the separate spreads to different
divisions within the company. So, we would be printing the following
as separate sheets. Cannot seem to get InDesign to do this. It always
prints the center 2 pages of the 4 page spread with a bit of the first
and fourth page on each side. Exactly what you would expect if you
asked it to print all four pages together but did not reduce the size
to fit the size of the paper.
1-2
2-3
3-4
5-6
6-7
7-8
For what it is worth, in Quark, you would check the box for spreads
and then specify the following: 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 5-6, 6-7, 7-8. You
would get 6 sheets out of the printer with a two page spread centered
on the sheet with no other extraneous printing on the sides.

Printing Spreads from Acrobat Professional

I'ved created a 4-page newsletter in Indesign. Then I created a low-res pdf (from the presets) set up as spreads.
When I print this, I'd like the first and last page to come out as a "spread" on the first output, then pages 2 and 3 as a spread on the second output.
Currently, It comes out like this:
output 1: page 1
output 2: 2 and 3 as a spread
ouput 3: page 4

Hi - I am having the same issue using Quark for magazine publishing and would like to create PDFs using Acrobat that show the spreads as shown in the magazine. Same thing is occurrning, with the first page as a single right-hand page, rather than a left-hand spread.
I'm assuming that rearranging pages using the document page pallette would work as the response indicated for Katherine using InDesign., but I was hoping for something a bit less manual.
Is there no setting in Acrobat that can alter this, rather than manually adjusting pages in the Quark document? Something setting that would start the PDF on a left hand page?
Just hoping for alternatives!
Anne

Please help! How to undo printer spread?

I was given an InDesign file to use as a template. It's a 33 page document, but it has been set I think to print as a booklet. So the pages on the "Pages" panel are sequenced for printing. I have to use this to put another issue of the document together. I want to be able to see the pages in sequence again (so page 1,2,3,4 etc. instead of 1 and 28 on spread one, and 2 and 27 on spread 2 etc. - which is what it is showing now). And I need to work on this right now to meet a deadline
I can't see a way of doing it - have I missed something?? Please help!
I am using CS5
Thanks for any help!

There's no feature of InDesign that lets pages be reordered in this way.
What's supposed to happen is that anyone who needs pages sorted in that way should use a different piece of software, that performs a function we call imposition, and do so on the PDF file that is exported from InDesign.
That doesn't help you, since someone else messed up the file.
All you can do is reorder the pages in the Pages panel, and perhaps reorder them back when you are done.
Since it's only 33 pages, it doesn't sound too bad.
I suppose we could write a script if you were really desperate, but it's probably easier to do it by hand...
Also, anywhere in the document that uses automatic page numbering is probably messed up. Not sure what to say about that... (unless each page run is its own section).

Printer Spreads to single pages

Hello. I am a digital printer and am having an issue with printer spreds. I have customer who keeps submitting a booklet they need printed in printer spreds. However that is basically usless for me since I have a digital press with impostion software( xerox 700, fiery 8 and command workstation 5). I need this file in single page format. Is there any way to do that in acrobat x pro or indesign cs6. Normally I would tell the customer to resubmit it but there are too many time constraints this time( par for the course). Any help would be appreciated

Thanks Peter I appreciate it. You are exactly right. When I extract the pages the covers are sing 8.5x11 but the body pages are all 11x17(two pages on one sheet). Your solution of placeing the documents twice in indesign and just using the bounding box to crop out the uneccessary page seems to be the best way to go about it. Luckily the pamplet is only 8 pages long. I would have been up a creek had it had a lot of pages.

Spreads -- best way to print

This question has come up because I received a phone call from my printer on Friday, during the middle of a print job on an iGen, saying he couldn't print my PDFs as spreads.
Now, before anyone says "Change printers", I'm not doing that. I'm going to train this one up. He and his dad have had thirty years experience in offset printing and about 5 years with an iGen. But I suspect their digital expertise is not really as good as it could be. So I'm going to help them out, with help from the experts here.
Previously, I have had no problems because I provided him with PDFs already in spread format. This time, the first file was a spread-format PDF, but the rest were single-page PDFs which I asked him to print as spreads. He printed the first file okay, but then I got a phone call.
He was adamant that his system (I think he mentioned a Creo RIP) couldn't print spreads. It could impose (32-1 etc), but couldn't print spreads.
So, to get the print job back on the road immediately, I imported the PDFs into InDesign and uploaded the InDesign files with links to the PDFs he already had. Then I suggested he print with Spreads selected, or use Print Booklet and choose 2-Up Consecutive. He choose the latter and called me a few minutes later to say it worked.
I'm not really happy with having to import the PDFs back into InDesign so that he can print them (it's an extra step for errors to creep in) and would like comments from readers re the three methods listed below. But first a question:
QUESTION
Is it possible that a printer could have a million dollar iGen, a Creo (?) RIP, and all the associated software that must come with the system, but not be able to print spreads from a single-page PDF? Maybe I've got the wrong terminology and I've sent him looking for the wrong thing. What name should I use: "facing pages", "spreads", "2-Up Consecutive"?
He has InDesign CS4 and Acrobat Professional. Assuming that he really can't print spreads using his normal method of printing PDFs, what are the pros and cons of:
Method 1
Print from Acrobat Professional, using the Multiple Pages Per Sheet option available in the Print dialog box. It works on my system.
Method 2
Import the PDFs back into InDesign and print as spreads.
Method 3
As per method 2, but use Print Booklet and 2-Up Consecutive.
Any comments most appreciated.

I'm a bit confused, bmcprint, by your explanation. What do you mean by "paginate single pages". I got the impression from the printer, but I didn't pursue the point as I wanted the printing to get underway, that he could impose 32-1, 2-31 etc but not 1-2, 3-4.
If I have to import the PDF into InDesign, and that allows him to get results, there's nothing much wrong with that I suppose.
I want to stick with this printer because he's trying to make a go of this new technology and he's got the personal touch. Whereas in the case of another printer I approached for a quote (a quote I would have had no difficulty in accepting because it was a cheaper), I feel two or three steps removed from the process. I get to talk to someone in the office, who may return my calls that day or may not -- meetings are regularly in progress -- and that person hasn't actually operated the iGen, though she will talk to the production manager for me. It's all a bit distant.
I'm paying extra, and spending more time sorting out the difficulties, but everytime I call the fellow I can hear the iGen in the background. I like that.
Anyway, that's not what this post is about. Is there any real difference between the three methods I listed, or will they all just as easily achieve the same result, once I have the PDFs back in InDesign?

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