Printing white on transparent backgrounds-shapes and letters

Why on transparent backgrounds do white shapes or letters not print white? I have a circle and wanted white circle with black letters. I even tried a black circle with white letters, but the letters printed transparent. I need to know how to properly use white. I have tried in Photoshop Elements and Photoshop. thanks.

To add to this - In photoshop when printing is normally cmyk which would mean to have white is the lack of all four colors hence transparent.
Normally to print white with a service for example, you would use the pantone color white, this would tell the service to use the ink white when printing the greyscale image. With pantone, each color would get it own greyscale image from opaque color to transparent. The printer would then print each color one at a time on same piece of paper. When the greyscales are combined you get a blended color image. Since this is usually quite expensive, only a few colors are used during this process.
Whereas cmyk printers can have all four colors in the printer making it a fairly cheap alternative. Where white would be the paper hence the transparency again.
As for private printers that can print white, I never used one and therefore must let someone else explain how those work.

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