Printing with color management

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You will need a printer which will print "Borderless" to print a full page; usually a Desktop Inkjet.

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Photoshop Help | Printing with color management in Photoshop CS6

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This is usually done in the printer driver's console.
What make/model printer do you have?
Good luck,
Hunt

How to disable the printer's color management in Photoshop CS5 with Mavericks?

Hi there, does anyone know how to disable the printer's color management in Photoshop CS5 with Mavericks? There doesn't seem to be an option. Could you help? Many thanks

Just select Photoshop Manages Color, and the printer driver color options should be disabled.

Need help with color management

I am looking for someone to help me. Please!
I am looking for help with Photoshop/printer not printing correct colors.
I have: Windows 7, Photoshop CS5, Photoshop Elements, HP Pavillion Laptop, new Okidata C530dn color laser printer
Previously I had a Canon Pixma MP620 and a gentleman from another forum gave me the correct settings for printing on photo paper and colors were perfect. I now have a OKIdata C530dn color laser and have started a business printing business cards and greeting cards, etc., and I do advertisements on a freelance basis.
I will be working a lot with cardstock or cover stock 65-110 lbs paper. I have an old OKIdata 2024e at work, and the colors are much better with that printer than my new personal one. I have tried matching the settings of that printer to mine to no avail. I have finally gotten the color close, but not quite. When I print on my Canon injet the colors match and print perfectly.
I have tried every setting variation that I can think of to get the color correct with my new OKIdata. I have to get the colors correct or my new business will go under because I can't match colors for my customers. I am a self taught Photoshoper and a novice so please bear with me.
Using Okidata PCL. Also have PS
Color settings in Photoshop:
North America General Purpose 2
sRGB 2.1
U.S. Web Coated Swop v2
Dot gain 20 %
Dot gain 20 %
Preserve embeded profile
Preserve embeded profile
Preserve embeded profile
engine: Adobe (ACE)
Relative Colormetric
Tried RGB color mode and CMYK color mode, no difference
Printer settings:
Photoshop manages colors
sRGB 2.1 Printer profile
Relative Colormetric
Print setup:
Letter
Multipurpose tray
Weight: printer settings-default (when I used heavy setting for cardstock it printed green instead of the color light blue, so that was a start to the right color)
Job Options:
Hight Quality
Color: No color matching
Printer preferences in Printer properties:
Color management
Device: Display 1 generic PnP monitor AMD M88og with ATI Mobility Radeon HD4200
ICC Profiles: Generic PnP Monitor (default)
Advanced:
Windows Color System Defaults:
everything under this tab is set at System Default
I have gotten the color close, but colors are dull. I have tried an adjustment layer and setting the saturation higher, but that doesn't help. I know my laptop is showing the right colors, (calibrated) because I am still printing to the Canon with cardstock and the colors are perfect using the same settings above.
Tried printing in PSE and it gave me an error that it was not a post script printer. Installed ps driver, still getting errors and it wouldn't print.
I would appreciate any help you could give me before I run out of toner and have to buy the expensive toners, or just slit my wrists j/k LOL
Thanks! JS

You need an ICC profile for your printer. Chromix has an excellent service at http://www2.chromix.com/colorvalet/ which will do this calibration for you. You download some software they provide, then print a test file on the exact same paper you are using for your cards. Then send the output to them and they will calibrate the colors with their equipment and send you the ICC profile file. Once you have it, you'll be able to print accurate colors.
There are other services out there that may cost less, but I do not know how reputable they are. Chromix is a good business I've worked with many times.
If you are trying to run a business and you don't understand color management yet, you may be in for a lot of trouble. Please get the book "Real World Color Management" available at http://www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor/ and it will save you a ton of money and headaches.

Cs6- need to enable printer's color management in Print settings dialogue box

I have been printing successfully for months to my Epson R2400. Suddenly, I am getting a Caution Triangle with a note that says "Remember to enable the printer's color management in the print settings dialog box. I have selected Color Handling: Printer manages in the Photoshop Print Settings box. Where else would I make this change.

Just select Photoshop Manages Color, and the printer driver color options should be disabled.

So, CAN I turn off the printer's color management? Pixma Pro-100.

So, I am trying to turn off the color management function for the Pro-100...
On my Windows desktop, I use Photoshop to print with Canson Rag 210, color profile installed, allow photoshop to manage colors and print a beautiful, perfect print with the Mark 9000. Now, I have the Pixma Pro-100 and using the exact same settings, I print wirelessly with my laptop, and I get these dark, red/orange hued prints that are atrocious.
I should mention the same exact photograph printed between setups ALWAYS prints better with the Mark 9000 and my desktop. However, when using my laptop and the Mark 9000... Crap. Laptop and Pixma Pro-100... Crap. What is my MAC doing that my desktop is not?! How can identical settings print such drastic results? Photoshop does warn me (newer version on my MAC vs. Windows) to turn off the printer's color management in the printer's settings, but I do not see that option. Maybe I'm missing it? How do I do that? I'm thinking it may help!

Have you tried printing from the MacBook using Canon Print Studio Pro or letting printer manage colors? I know this doesn't specifically answer your question, but PSP is designed to handle the PS/printer interface.
Download PSP 1.3.5 from the Canon support site.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/printers_multifunction/pixma_pro_series/pixma_pro_100...
John Hoffman
Conway, NH
1D Mark IV, Rebel T5i, Pixma PRO-100, MX472

How do I print without color management in CS6?

EVery time I print a test target for color profiling, I open CS4 so that I can print with no color management. I can't figure out how to do it in CS6. I must be missing something obvious, but I just can't find the option to print without color management anywhere in the CS6 driver.

As someone who prints Digital Negatives (there are quite a few of us out there now), the ability to print without color management is a huge liability. Why would you take that out of Photoshop and create a completely seperate application to do this? From inside photoshop, I can print with registration marks (necessary for multi-negative prints).
So now there's Lightroom to manage the locations, open up Photoshop to apply curves and then figure a way to add registration marks to the file itself, the print from another app altogether.
Even just the ability to add profiles (AdobeRGB tagged file, then print with photoshop manage color, AdobeRGB profile) works in this situation.. but for some reason.. you've decided to pick and choose which profiles we can and can't use.
... unhappy with CS6
jim

Printer Printing with color ink in greyscale mode

Even you choose to print in black and white only, printer prints with color inks.
Printer Model : HP C4580

Hi GT501,
Thank you for your response!
Please go through the following:
Reset the printing system. OS X Mavericks: Reset the printing system.
Verify and repair disk permissions. Disk Utility 12.x: Repair disk permissions.
Let's start with those two steps for now, and let me know what happens.
Hope this is helpful, and have a nice day!
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Issue with Color Management and Print Module

The is a repost per request from a comment on Julieanne Kost's blog...
Having sticky output settings can be useful but now that LR has a color managed workflow, it introduces some problems. For example, if a Proof Copy is created and edited to a particular profile, then that copy is taken into the Print Module, if the output profile that has “stuck” from the previous job does not match you have a problem. It would be nice if the behavior for proof copies would be to automatically match the editing profile or at least warn of a mismatch. And while it is nice to be able to create a Saved Print with all the output parameters, it would be helpful to be able to create saved sets of “Print Job” settings assuming that they will be consistent for a particular printer/ink/paper combination (and whatever “Print Adjustment” you have found to your liking) then easily applied to any image being prepared for output. Perhaps a “save setting” selection under the “Print to:” menu.

So what you propose is the templates are proof copy sensitive and if they are setup for profile A but the proof copy describes profile B, then everything but the template defined profile is honored? I could get behind that idea (but what if one selects multiple VC’s with differing profiles and goes into Print?).
That's pretty much it. It does get complicated quickly as you look at multiple VCs or (and I think we need to start making the distinction between proof copies and ordinary virtual copies) if you bring a mixture of PCs and VCs into the print module. I would suggest that the default behavior be to set output profile of the PC as defined in the PC and retain the "sticky" behavior for ordinary VCs.
I also think that having the ability to save a "Print Copy" may change what we need out of the templates and perhaps their overall function should be re-evaluated.
The VC name should show you the profile used for soft proofing if you have the overlay on. That helps too. My concern are those who work with these VC’s and the text overlay is off.
I'm not getting that behavior. The only place the copy name shows up in the print module is in the filmstrip header. Maybe I have a preference set wrong somewhere... Still, I'd rather the software take care of making the match rather than having to double check to make sure I haven't inadvertently changed the profile somehow (i.e. clicking on a template just to see how it would look on another size paper).

Printing: ICC Color Managed -vs- Driver Managed

Hi,
I have a Dell U2410 monitor calibrated with a Datacolor Spyder4Express.
I have an inexpensive Canon 6220 (dye) and also a Canon 9550 Mark II printer (pigments).
I tried printing a test print from Picasa as well as from Adobe Elements and Lightroom.
We went through manh of the permuations of printing from each printer using the different print modes.
Observations:
0. all the prints look different. Some are passable some are not.
1. the Adobe ICC color managed prints from Lightroom and/or Elements don't look better (or closer to the U2410 calibrated monitor).
2. each print has strenghts and weakness (e.g. - too much red, blue is weak, etc.)
3. we viewed the prints in a variety of viewing environments.
Questions:
1. would printer profiling help at this juncture?
2. in reality are the actual printers different then the Canon ICC profiles?
3. do the printer profiling tools measure the distance (error) in the standard ICC profiles -vs- what was measured/computed?
Thanks in advance!

Too much Red (weak Blue) is a symptom of Double Profiling. I am guessing you are printing to profile in Lightroom and failing to turn off the Windows-based color management.
In your Canon Print Dialog (9550) Main tab, Color/Intensity setting. Click the Manual button and then the [Set…]
This takes you to the Manual Color Adjustment dialog. On the Matching tab, set Color Correction to None
Now go back to Lightroom and print using the Printer/Paper profile.

Need help with color managment addon

I am using Firefox under Fedora 14 Linux. I added the color management addon and told it which profile to use. But I am having some trouble telling if it is working. One problem is that when I use firefox to open an image file on my machine, it gives me the choice of using Image Viewer or Other. Image viewer is Eye Of Gbnome, which doesn't make use of my monitor profile, and I can't think of a convenient other program to use which does use the monitor profile.
Is there some way to get firefox to view the image directly.
I presume when I view images at a distant website, the color managment add-on is inter posing my monitor profile, but I am not sure about that. Is ther e some way to check it?

You need an ICC profile for your printer. Chromix has an excellent service at http://www2.chromix.com/colorvalet/ which will do this calibration for you. You download some software they provide, then print a test file on the exact same paper you are using for your cards. Then send the output to them and they will calibrate the colors with their equipment and send you the ICC profile file. Once you have it, you'll be able to print accurate colors.
There are other services out there that may cost less, but I do not know how reputable they are. Chromix is a good business I've worked with many times.
If you are trying to run a business and you don't understand color management yet, you may be in for a lot of trouble. Please get the book "Real World Color Management" available at http://www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor/ and it will save you a ton of money and headaches.

Problem with color management

I try to print from the print module using custom profiles. When I select the corresponding profile for the print and proceed I should be able to disable colormanagement from the print dialog. Problem is that when custom profile is selected in Lightroom, colormanagement option is grayed out in the print dialog, and color management is ON, not OFF as it should and I can't change it. If I select "printer manages colors" then the colormanagement options are available.
Latest OS X, Lightroom 5, Canon ipf6100 with latest drivers

With the Canon Drivers I've encountered on the Mac OS, change from Managed by Printer to a Paper Profile in Lightroom autoswitches the Canon Driver at the Mac OS level and disables changes. Your behavior sounds as expected - unless you are getting double profiled prints. Are you? How do your prints look?

With color management, color picker current color does not match canvas color

What gives here with color picker in CS3?
RGB doc
using color management/profiles
View>>proof color using my Epson RGB printer profile
create box
double click fill box in palette box to view color picker
pick color from spectrum area
close color picker
want to change color of box
double click fill box to view color picker
NOW current color does not match color on canvas, subtle but vexing color shift. So how can I use current color to pick a new color on the canvas is always different.
here's an in illustration of the problem:
http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dfv8h494_18gwqbsjg5

Rob, here's screenshot of Acrobats Output Preview Object Inspector. You can download my PDF here - //www.fileswap.com/dl/Q1CzzOzEqt/
I'm not sure if CM was assigned to document when created or afterwards. In Color Settings preferences is stated Fogra 39 (if it matters - document was meanwhile saved and opened...). Are there other options to assign workspace to exsisting document?
Peter, this is not the case. Placed image has embeded same color profile as is working space of document in ID. I tried the same with sRGB image placed in same ID document and compared it to PS but color shift (greenish) is present - it looks exactly the same.
Guys, I can't tell you how happy I am to have you help me with this terrible and nerve-wracking problem.

Draft Mode Printing with Colour Management

Hi
A simple change to the print module that would improve matters for me.
Draft Mode Printing disables all print enhancements, I can understand the reasoning behind this BUT for me the main advantage is the speed of generation using only the existing previews, I would still like to be able to print using the correct colours. Proofs don't have to be high quality or particularly sharp but if you present a client with proofs that have a colour cast or other colour fault they are going to think your final images are also suspect.
Please consider re-enabling Colour Management in Draft Mode.
Thanks
Mike

u are probably not getting much help on this unless you post screenshot of your process (starting with File> Print window)
remember, Photoshop can print a document correct regardless of how it looks on the monitor (and vice versa: Photoshop can display a document correct regardless of how it prints)
i recommend getting a known target like the WhackedRGB.jpg and see where the problem is occuring (in Photoshop color management settings, on the monitor, on the printer or both)...

Attempts to wrap my head around printing and color management.

So, I've been meaning to get (more) serious about printing my shots. It's the summer and I now have some time.
I know I've got the first piece of the puzzle in place. I have an i1 Display 2 that I use to calibrate my monitor - my MB + one of 2 Dells using either or TN or P-MVA panel. I try to use the latter more.
I've viewed the image with different monitors and lowered the brightness when 'soft proofing' with Canon's profile. It's the best I can do being that I don't own a spectrometer.
Anyway the result on my screen was so incredibly different. The black was grey. I lost shadow detail. And it just looked flat. I tweaked it a bit but it didn't help.
I decided to test print using the Canon Photo Plus Glossy paper I had. I set the ColorSync Profile box to the profile I soft proofed with. The result was horrible!!!! Incredibly dark and ugly. It however wasn't grey or very flat - though it was so dark.
I tried again with the colorsync profile set to system managed. This produced a result darker than the screen, but not grey like the profile. Sort of an average between the screen and profile. Much better but still not great.
Then I ran out of paper and couldn't try anything else.
So here's the technical info if it matters:
I'm using a canon ip5200 with 3 fresh inks. The other 2 are fairly recent and not used too much.
The paper was Canon Photo paper plus glossy
The photo was a sports shot with a heavy dark vignette I think a more even shot would be easier to work with. However, the dark vignette with blonde flying hair looked great. (Who says sports can't be artistic?- I love the vignette to for some shots!)
So what exactly is the ColorSync Profile menu in the print window for?
What am I doing wrong?
PS: Sorry if this is a repeat, but the search function is down.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there are some seriously weird stuff going on with printing with Aperture and 10.5 I would not have believed it had a number of my clients and friends not experienced the same kind of issues that I personally walked through and witnessed.
I can give some general advise in terms of helping to resolve your issues. By all means update to 10.5.4 do a repair permissions on your drive, make sure that you reinstall the latest greatest printer drivers for Leopard downloaded from Canon, and wave some chicken bones over your system.
You may also want to trash your Aperture prefs and Printer presets and start from scratch. (if you do not know how to do this hit me back)
Then give it another try - make sure that you turn off color mgt in the printer prefs dialog, select the appropriate paper and then select the corresponding profile in the aperture print dialog. (Have heard reports that if you do not turn the color mgt off in the driver the option becomes unavailable after you select the paper profile in Aperture but does not turn it off - cannot confirm)
Hope this helps.
RB

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