Prints coming out too dark: need calibration workflow?

Hello!
Yes, my monitor is an LCD and it is bright. It is not a proofing monitor. It was calibrated. I've been printing B&W from LR on an Epson printer (r1900 & r2400). I know proper color management. Turn off Epson Color Management, let LR manage color with the correct icc profile
Obviously I can do trial and error, brightening the photo until it looks correct.
My thought is, is there a way I could print on one page Thumbnails or like in the film days strips with different "exposures." Then with one print I could pick how much of an adjustment is needed?
Any thoughts how this can be accomplished?
Any plug-ins?
Thanks
Max

It was automated. So I don't know what tweaks it did. My colors are accurate.
It's been awhile. You run the software and it generates the icc profile. I see it load on each start-up. It was the version before Color Monkey. I don't have a highend monitor.
Just checked: X-rite Dtp94 Monaco Optix Xr Monitor Display Calibration

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