Prints too dark with Photoshop Elements 10

My photos are printing out much darker than what is on the monitor display. I have calibrated the monitor and changed the color profile, color management & color space numerous times and they I cannot see any difference in the prints. I've changed the printer settings, still too dark. I have edited the photos and brightened them, still much darker than on the display. I'm using Photoshop Elements 10 with a new monitor and computer. My old computer and Adobe Photoshop CS2 program did not have this problem. Any suggestions?

Check to be sure that color is not managed both by PSE and by the printer. In editor, go to Edit>color settings and check "always manage color for computer screens." Then, go to File>print>more options (lower left in the dialog)>Color Management tab>Color handling: "Printer Manages Color."
Are drivers and firmware for your printer up to date?
Do pictures print well via other applications with your equipment?
Have you printed a file, processed in Elements, at a kiosk, such as at CVS? How does that look?
I assume that you are printing from Editor, not from Organizer. It is said that the print engines are not the same.

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