Pro color profile (i1xtreme) vs broadcast ref monitor

OK, I've had the privilege of working in production long enough that I know the importance of using a properly setup broadcast ref monitor, but is there a better way today for those of us doing web only delivery? In what little I've googled I'm guessing there is not, but here are my thoughts.
We've just switched to the Production Premium suite of software and I'm wondering if using our photojournalists i1xtreme monitor calibration system if I can get a decent setup on a DVI/mini display port connected monitor. He's pretty sure he can hit the REC709 spec, but then not sure how I would do the other adjustments. I understand that the max I could get is 8bit. We had considered the MXO2, but now I read on the Matrox site that there is a lag from computer to MXO2 monitor that their engineers are trying to figure out. Seems like I read somewhere that AJA is having some problems with some codecs also lagging from computer to ref monitor.
MacPro 5,1, dual quad-core Xeon, 12gb mem, 2 Dell 2407WFP monitors, editing HDV, but switching to H.264 via Panasonic AVCCAM camcorder (want to edit natively)
We do have an old Sony CRT SD broadcast monitor & LHe that was pulled from the Mac due to unresolved crashing issues editing HDV natively in FCP7.

Premiere Pro could really use your help in getting a proper monitoring solution implemented - without third party cards/codecs.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/900221?tstart=0

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Hello Friends,
May be it has already discussed in many forums but somehow I got confused about different solutions of the questions and due to this asking once again here.
I am using Macbook pro of 2012 and there exist many color profiles in the Display settings.
I am a photographer who uses Photoshop for the editing as well as Canon Software.
To get the most accurate Monitor Calibration Should I use default "color LCD" profile ?
I am not using any External Calibration tool. I have manually calibrate the screen but somehow I am not 100% confident on that.
In that case should I go for default "color LCD" for my photo processing. I found some light yellow cast/warm color on that profile but I am not sure..
Any help/suggestion will be much appreciated.
I am using:- MacBook Pro + OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.5
Warm Regards,
Ari...

Which model MacBook Pro? [EDIT] my bad, didn't see it in your original post
You mentioned that there is no error message when you try to change the profile; something is probably being reported to console though. Open Console.app (in /Applications/Utilities/) and see if anything is reported to it while you're experiencing these problems. If so, please post it here and I'll take a look at it.
Are you using the default profile that came with the machine or did you create your own by using the Calibration Assistant?
You might try opening Color Sync Utility (in /Applications/Utilities/) and verify or repair (if necessary) your color profiles.
Hope this helps....
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Acrobat 9 Pro color profiles?

here is my situation:
I create multipage mockups in Illustrator (all of my Adobe software is Creative Suite 5 Design Premium running on Win7 32bit [I wish it was 64, but printers don't like it so.. yeah]) and after creating them , i then save them to a modifed PDF Preset PDF file.
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I can provide a sample set of files so you can hopefully see what i see if you need them.
I do not know that much about any advanced features of Acrobat, so it may be setting that I'm not aware of or something like that. Color is also not a very high priority (though i really wish it was) in my workflow and thus my understanding of it is also fairly limited. Color theory in college doesn't count i don't think

This may have nothing to do with your problem, but -- at least with Acrobat 8, there is a 100MB limit to the scanned image. Are you trying to scan something larger than that?

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In case some people one to fix color profile for their GT-70 Monitor (Chi Mei 173HGE)
Someone from different forum using same monitor had fixed that for us, and I like the 7500k version.
Just make sure you enable Use Windows display calibration in
Control panel > Color Management > Advanced > Change System Defaults > Advanced > Use Windows display calibration
The link is :
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?36153-Personal-Color-Profile-for-the-Chi-Mei-173HGE
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Editors' Choice Award. Good job MSI !!
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Please help me find a color profile for Samsung 2343bwx

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Im just trying to get started in the graphical design field, I just bought a Samsung 2343BWX Lcd monitor (i know I know TN isnt the best for graphical design but im not rich), the color profile that came with the monitor is defective and displays everythign in a deep yellow tint, Ive tried using samsungs Natural Color Pro monitor profiling software but it results in a really ughly profile that is too dark and has a blueish tint to it.
Samsung's support isnt much help (no sprise there) and I cant afford a spyder or eye-one hardware calibration tool at this point.
Does anyone have or know where I can get a good color profile for this monitor? You have no idea how much I would appriciate it.
Thank you in advance for your help
All The Best

You have a few choices....
1. Use the generic monitor profile supplied with your monitor, the one that came with it when you bought it. This will be generic, and will not account for drift, and probably won't be all that accurate. But, at least it should be in the general ballpark since it represents a cross section of a grouping of similar monitors.
2. Try one of the presets that came with your monitor. I don't know what presets or controls are offered with this monitor, but I would shoot for a color temp between 5000K and 5500K, a 2.2 gamma, and a reasonably dim brightness setting.
3. Find someone who can do a hardware/software calibration, either a friend, or someone who will do it for a fee. This will get it right once (if they know what they are doing), but will not account for drift over the long term.
4. Search online and see if you can find some visual calibration target and do it by eyeball. This is usually not easy to do, and probably won't be satisfactory, but you can give it a try.
5. Buy a calibration package and do it yourself. You should probably calibrate an LCD monitor at least monthly (I do mine weekly). This is the best way to go, at least if you are serious about accurate color. And this doesn't guarantee that your monitor and print will match. For that, you need to calibrate your printer for each type of paper you use, or rely on generic printer profiles. Then, you have to make sure you set everything up properly and utilize all your profiles properly. Sorry, but this is all part of the price you have to pay if you want good color.The fee involves money for the proper tools, education on how to use them, and experience in applying them properly.

Which is correct color profile for my macbook pro?

Hey there, I make DVD's for a living and I just recieved my new 17 inch macbook pro
I am about to install photoshop and I am curious.
Which color profile is correct for video work
as in, doesnt matter if it pleases me or "looks cool"
which is the acurate color profile that i can rely on for photoshop work for video (72 dpi etc etc)
is it COLOR LCD.
or Adobe RGB (1998)

Adobe RGB is not a monitor profile.
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As for Photoshop, if intend to export for web purposes, your working space should be sRGB.

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When I view sRGB images in FF4, they don't display properly (not converting to my local color profile). Images I save as my local profile as imgs, appear fine in FF4. This applies to both JPGs and PNGs.
IE and Chrome have no issues with view sRGB. Local color profile imgs of course appear correct.

See https://developer.mozilla.org/En/ICC_color_correction_in_Firefox
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Test page: http://www.color.org/version4html.xalter - Is your system ICC Version 4 ready?

****yellowish color shift in LIGHTROOM: disabling monitor color profile in LR?

Hi all,
I would love to know if there is a way to ***disable the monitor (color) profile**** in LR.
WHY?
Cause all my pictures seems yellowish in LR, and not anywhere else (firefox, i.e, photoshop, xnview, etc...)
I solved the same problem in PHOTOSHOP, this way :
when loading images in photoshop, during starting up, I got this very message :
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with two possible options :
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Then if I use "Ignore profile" everything is fine!
If I select "use anyway" --> Wrong, all my pictures are yellowish.
That's why I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, pleaaaaaase if I can do the same in LR.
I personnally didn't find, or what else I should do ?! Knowing that I do not have a ...too expensive!... calibration tool , and my monitor is a LG, L245WP.
----> Thanx sooo much for your help.
       I would love to use LR, but this way I can't...
>kiwiii
form PARIS france ( excuse my english level).
NB : I read 2 threads here , but didn't find my solution : http://forums.adobe.com/thread/414524
                                                                          and : http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415180
NB : in one of these I downloaded this RGB picture :
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DdeGannes, Sean : thanx.
I went to my vista profil , added a profile in relation with my screen... but then which on should I select , between the several sRGB options :
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or
- ICC profile : sRGB IEC 61966-2.1 ?
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Then have you both a calibrator, and you both did all the color "chain" from CAMERA to PRINTER ?
I am asking.... cause all these adjustments + buying a calibrator seems tough to me to manage/achieve.
You know : I'm not a professional ...
To me, non - pro, it looks even more dangerous to do so than leaving evreything in default mode & presets...
Should I do something wrong...
NO?
Moreover I mean : this is odd that my computer , or/AND (?) screen ,
doesn't have a "default setting" which would be suitable in LR , at least which no colour shift !
( I just change my LG screen mode to 5600K etc... and still I have the same yellowish gap in LR )
Why would my color management just be wrong in LR or Photoshop ?
Doesn't this light something I miss to you both, maybe professionals?
If I read you fine, + the other website... everything is kind of automatic now in every softwares... even xnview, firefox, (not i.e.) etc...
so why just LR + photoshop, would be mistaken on my computer,
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I mean I got the the point that my whole color management is unshure...
but it nevertheless it should BE THE SAME through all my softwares... NO ?
Isn't there a general ADOBE setting somewhere, that might be bugged instead?
I still think , according to that, that we are missing something.
Sorry to bother you with my thoughts....
kiwiii ( paris - france )
ps/ Does really Photoshop detect the changes I would do directly on my screen ?
     Because when I switch from sRGB, to 6500 K , 9300K or user... on my screen,
     I STILL HAVE the PHOTOSHOP ERROR message :
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      As for the rest of my computer I never changed any COLOR PROFILE anywhere... So how do people do without a calibrator to use LR ?
      Is it possible at least?
      Is my screen (i thought so good) totally bugged, if none of my color profile is "ok" for photoshop & LR ?
THANX AGAIN FOR READING and helping me...

Monitor color profile, fast switch script

Hi everyone,
I often switch between two monitor color profile, the default one "LED Cinema Display" and the calibrated one, named with the date of calibration (ex:"22June2011").
Is there a way to fast switch between this two with a script, without entering in monitor preferences and move to color tab every time? Maybe set an icon on the menu bar... Or an icon on the dock...
Thanks,
Filippo

More important, the question is not about color management, is about scripting.
Otherwise we're just wasting words, that doesn't seem the right place to speak about profiling...
Do you want help or not? What you're asking has everything to do profiling and color management. You're going about the use of profiles for your monitor completely wrong.
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The monitor profile you made with i1Profiler is the only one you should be using. It is an exact description of the white point, black point, gamut and color range of the monitor you are looking at. The canned profile has nothing to do with the monitor in front of you. It's a generic average that is just short of completely useless since it is not a direct description of the monitor you own. Forget the "LED Cinema Display" profile, or any other canned profile on the system.
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You can also adjust the color using ColorSync feature of Mac OS X. Open System Preferences to the Displays pane. A control window opens on each display. Click on the Color tab. From there, you can calibrate the display so that they match as close as possible.
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I can fix this by entering Preferences and then selecting Display. As soon as I do that, the correct color profile is loaded and everything is fine.
Obviously that is incredibly annoying.
Does anyone know why the screensaver would cause the color profile to go away and/or why exiting the screensaver would not restore it?

I've been having the same problem with my Mac Pro, though it only happens on one of the two connected screens.
I upgraded from the original GeForce 7300 GT graphics card to an 8800 GT I got from the local Apple store. Rather than box up the 7300 and throw it on a shelf, I moved the it to the top, 8 lane PCIe slot and installed the 8800 in the bottom, 16 lane slot. In stead of putting full load on one card, I plugged one monitor (1024x768) into the 7300, and the other (1024x1280) into the 8800.
The larger monitor, plugged into the 8800, appears to exhibit the color profile issue for a split second before as the screen saver activates, and often (but not always) when coming out of the screen saver. Opening the monitors pane will load the proper profile, but cycling in and out of the screen saver a few times (the number varies, I've seen anywhere from one to five cycles) can also bring up the correct profile.
In addition, cycling the screen saver will some times result in it deactivating and just sitting at a black screen... The monitor will be on (not in power saving mode), but will only display black. Flinging the mouse back up to the hot corner to cycle on the screen saver results in a momentary flicker of the desktop just before the saver comes up.
The 7300 screen behaves as expected when the 8800 is having problems, throughout the cycling and all.

Help calibrating color profile for two monitors??

I have two cinema display monitors (one new, the other 1 year old), and I can't get them to share a color profile. Through SysPrefs I can calibrate them individually, but the results look completely different. The older monitor appears "pinker" overall, esp. in the light tones. When I finish calibrating, the last dialogue box asks to if I want to share the color profile, but I can't see the new profile in the other monitor's Display Profile list.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Barron,
You have to load the profile you want to share into the approriate folder >Library>ColorSync>Profiles>Displays
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Why this is how you have to do it, I will never know, seems awfully PC like.

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When I plug or unplug an external monitor (dualhead2go, projector, single monitor) on my MBP mid-2010, I frequently lose the color profile associated with the laptop screen or external monitor. Typically the windows take on a very dark color and are almost unreadable.
I have to go to the display preferences, color tab, and click on the appropriate profile to fix the problem. Often I have to close and reopen apps to get them to switch back, too.
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I've been having the same problem with my Mac Pro, though it only happens on one of the two connected screens.
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In addition, cycling the screen saver will some times result in it deactivating and just sitting at a black screen... The monitor will be on (not in power saving mode), but will only display black. Flinging the mouse back up to the hot corner to cycle on the screen saver results in a momentary flicker of the desktop just before the saver comes up.
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I'm having exactly the same problem as well. Sometimes, after sleep, it has the correct Gamma 2.2. profile and sometimes it doesn't. As soon as I click on Displays, in the System Prefs, it changes back to what it should be namely Gamma 2.2.
Very frustrating.
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