Pro res 4444 on fw 800 drive

anybody working @ prores 4444 off a fw800 drive? need to do a quick cc on some dailies & edit
and wondering if it'll even play off a graid fw800.

Enrique, I think you might want to rethink this-- especially if this is a dailies gig where you've gotta turn stuff around regularly. Ask for dailies on a better drive-- one that you can plug into a faster connection. Did you ever resolve your e-sata stuff? If you've got a box that you can sled the drive into you'll be MUCH better off in terms of playability and throughput.
It would be a bear to have to copy everything onto your system, CC and then dump back. It ought to be in the producer's court to fix this!
Slot 4 is what works really well for me, BTW , with my sonnet card...
Aside: You gotta love this forum-- don't see a guy for 25 years, and here he is on the forum...

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Apple pro res 4444 info?

COuld someone tell me the data rate for apple pro res 4444 codec? how many megabytes per second does it demand? Will I be able to run it from a 7200 rpm firewire 800 single mobile drive?
Thanks!

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/apple-prores.html

Fcp forces me to render Apple Pro Res 4444 files when i drop on timeline

i shoot with the canon 5d mark ii and i have been having problems making my videos easy to edit. I convert them from h.264 to the apple pro res 4444. when i take the files and then attempt to drag them into the project timeline, i am prompted to change the settings to match that of the video format. when i select no, all of the files require me to render before playback. when i select yes, i always get dropped frames and the video stalls and fails to play. selecting no and rendering is not time efficient at all and i know there is a better way to do this. any help or suggestions? i'm clearly doing something wrong.

Hi -
While it may seem counterintuitive, transcoding to a ultra-high quality, specialized format like ProRes 4444 actually, in most cases, counter productive.
Converting your h.264 files to ProRes 4444 is like buying size 26 shoes for size 9 feet. Apple ProRes 4444 is there for specialized use by people editing large frame size images +WITH an alpha channel for each frame+. To properly play it back will require both a high horsepower computer and high speed disk drive array to support the data rate involved in that format.
May I make a suggestion? I would be to convert your h.264 material to Pro Res 422. Even ProRes HQ is beyond what you need to handle your material correctly.
When you convert your files to ProRes 422, and allow FCP to set the sequence to the same settings, you will find that you will be able to edit without rendering. And don't worry - the quality of your image is set by the h.264 compression, the conversion to Pro Res 422 will not degrade it.
A frequent example given on these boards: if you take a can of beer, and pour it in a keg, you still have just a can of beer, but it is harder to carry around - and the keg certainly takes up more space.
There is a very useful White Paper written by Apple that describes the various flavors of ProRes and their correct application at:
http://images.apple.com/finalcutstudio/docs/AppleProRes_White_Paper_July2009.pdf
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Trouble exporting Pro Res 4444 at current settings through QT

Hi. I'm editing a sequence with settings at Pro Res 4444, frame size 2048/1024 (footage shot on Red). It's 25 minutes long. The client wants me to deliver a self-contained movie at current settings. When I try to export one (choosing 'export'/'quicktime movie'), after getting 3-5 pct done, it stops and a '! General Error' message appears.
There's plenty of room on my drive.
Anyone know what 'general error' might mean in this case? Is it perhaps impossible to export a file this big (I expect it to be about 60G)? If it is indeed not possible, any tips on what alternate settings I can use to give the client the best possible quality?

First you should know that FCE doesn't work natively with h.264 files. It will try, but in the long run you'll encounter a lot of problems. Since FCE was designed to only work with the QuickTime DV and AIC formats, you'll need to convert the footage prior to importing. If your version has a Log & Transfer function, there might be a plugin you can download from Canon that will transcode the files into the proper format. But whatever you do, when converting the files, the video specs MUST exactly match the specs of your FCE Sequence.
If you want to edit h.264 files natively, use Adobe Premier or FCP-X.
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Pro Res 4444 to Pro Res 422

I have Pro Res 4444 footage that I want to edit in FCS for the web. My understanding is that it would be better to work in Pro Res 422 (easier to work with etc). Would it make sense to import the Pro Res 4444 in FC and used compressor to export it to a Pro Res 422 format? Or is there a better way?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Take the footage directly into Compressor and convert to 422. No reason to go to FCP first. OR...better yet. With the footage in FCP, use the media Manager to RECOMPRESS to PR422.

What is error code 0? Trying to copy a pro res.mov file to thumb drive connected to Mac Book Pro (2010 vintage).

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Pro res 4444 import into AE is Half Res!?

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Astrojam wrote:
Is there a easy way to unrender a seq as opposed to replacing the video
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Having some problems with Apple Pro Res 422 HQ and Hard Drives

Hey,
I've been having trouble when digitizing video via Apple Pro Res 422. First off I'm using a macbook pro 2Ghz intel core duo/2GB of Ram and my hard drive is pretty much almost full. I've set my scratch disks to a Lacie 1TB drive via USB 2.0. Second of all during the Apple Pro Res 422 capture process in the middle of capture it says that my Internal Drive is almost full and won't let me continue on with capture. I don't get it because everything in the scratch disks are set to my Lacie Drive.

My Lacie has 1 firewire 400 and 2 firewire 800 ports but my computer is an early macbook pro that only has 1 firewire 400 port and 2 USB ports. So yea it kinda of stinks but could you recommend a eSata Express card?
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Apple Pro Res 4444, does it work with FCP 6?

Does ProRes 4444 work with FCP 6? I don't think so but wanted to check before I had the film lab telecine my film. I'm stuck with FCP 6. Might have to go with ProRes 422 (HQ) ?

Jon Chappell wrote:
Are you 100% sure that you can write to ProRes 4444 files in QT 7.6.2? I would have thought you'd need FCS3 for that.
See, I knew the editing gods would humble me.
I just re-tested this on a separate FCS 2 partition and it turns out my memory was failing. While you can read and import the new ProRes codecs, you can cannot render out to them in the FCP 6 + QT 7.6.2 universe. So yeah, getting all ProRes4444 files would be a hassle on an FCP 6 setup.
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FCP Pro Res Super 16mm -- Compressor -- DVD Studio Pro (Nightmare Workflow Critique)

Hello,
I figured I post here rather than the DVD Studio Pro forum; I've posted on Creative Cow as well but haven't gotten any responses yet.
Before I mention my problem, I'd like to mention that I've tried several types of compression methods and bitrates and unfortunately, my disk still freezes in my player, generally around the same area.
(I have two, minute long clips with Smoothcam there).
I'll try to be as specific about my work-flow as I can and I've posted the photos of my FCP and Compressor settings below.
30 Minutes. Super 16mm.
2K DPX Scans -- > Graded In Color --> Pro Res 4444 23.976 --> Sent To Compressor --> Mpeg 2 + AC3 --> Build & Format With DVD Studio Pro
I set blue compression markers at the start of each Smoothcam clip.
I've recompressed my footage without Smoothcam as well - with the same end result.
I've sent my timeline to Compressor and used both the 5.5-7 VBR setting and the 6.5 CBR settings (with everything under Frame Controls set to the highest quality).
(I've also used the 6.2-7.7 built in settings with the ninety-minute high quality preset).
I am using Sony DVD-R disks. 16X/1X. When I play them in my PS3, the film freezes at different points in the first two-three minutes - then skips ahead exactly to the same point in my film - about halfway.
I've set Chapter markers and it skips to the halfway one; from there it plays fine.
1. I wanted to ask if I should maybe export my entire sequence first through FCP (an .mov file) and try Compressing that?
(I've done this and the result is still the same)
2. Should I set it to Pro Res 422 HQ first?
(I've done this and the result is still the same)
3. Perhaps I should just try to Compressor with the 90Min-HQ setting without changing anything?
(I've done this and the result is still the same)
4. Should I remove the Smoothcam?
I'm currently compressing the entire sequence void of all Smoothcam.
When I bring the files into DVD Studio Pro, I see under preferences that Studio Pro also has VBR settings. Do those have any effect on my DVD encode? There is no CBR there - only VBR set from 5.5-7.
5. Is there anything I'm doing wrong with regards to my workflow? There are several options that may be causing this; I'm not sure if its the progressive footage to interlaced standard definition disk, or modifying field dominance, gop structure, etc.
Any help would be greatly (that's greatly) appreciated.
Thanks!
-Boris

My first impression is you're trying to make this too hard...
You have a high quality timeline which is downconverted to 1080, no problem. Once rendered, SmoothCam
should not represent a problem. If anything, SmoothCam will reduce the sudden movement that can cause problems. Any scenes where you have a high rate of change per frame (like in an explosion or a background of leaves flapping in the wind) should be marked with compression markers.
Export as a QT movie using sequence settings (include markers for DVDSP) so you have a completed source file for compression. I'm not aware of anything that will improve the quality beyond what is in the timeline, so current sequence settings are fine. Test this for playback issues.
If you are having playback problems with the sequence after export and compression, the most probable cause is excessively high bandwidth requirements. Try using the DVD: Best Quality 90 minutes preset. It generally produces a very good quality product. Any attempt to increase the quality will likely increase the bandwidth requirements that are the probable cause of the skipping.
While Sony is a big name, their DVD substrate is only mediocre. If you think the substrate is a problem, switch to Verbatim or JVC/Taiyo-Yuden.
If you are dissatisfied with the quality of the Compressor output, look into the Cinema Craft encoding products.
Hope this helps.

Apple Pro Res "Render at Maximum Depth"

From my understanding, Apple Pro Res maxes out at 12 bit with DSLR cameras in movie mode not even reaching that. Yet, the setting for "Render at Maximum Depth" offers 24 to 64 bit. Anyone know what the story is with this setting?
And does anyone know the settings for Apple Pro Res 4444 at its highest quality when coming from H.264?
Thanks.

For your reading enjoyment -
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4529886
http://images.apple.com/finalcutpro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper_October_2012.pdf
A question for you - what is your workflow where you think you might need this? Keep in mind that the majority of cameras only record 8-bit color, and also in a very highly compressed format, so you won't necessarily gain anything by going to 4444, as the source video is of limited quality already.
Basically, if you don't have any high-bit-depth sources in your timeline to preserve the quality of, there may be little or no benefit to enabling "Max Depth".
Thanks
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

Are there certain system requirements for Pro Res Rendering?

Wondering if there has to be some kind of codec? or possible system capability to render out in Pro Res 4444 @ 29.97fps?
Thoughts?

Huh, that is odd. Doesn't even say you ain't got it ... although at this point I would check on how to check if you're got ProRes installed on your system. A question ... do you have Quicktime as the "Pro" (paid) version or simply the free version?
Neil

Apple Pro Res 64-bit Encoding

I've looked everywhere and tried everything...
https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/whats-new-7-1.html
At the bottom, under "support for new camera formats", there is a section regarding support for "Apple ProRes 64-bit" as a new camera codec. I looked everywhere in Media Encoder and the only thing with a "64" in the Apple Pro Res Codecs is under Apple Pro Res 4444 in the "Maximum Bit Depth". However, this option was already available so that 's not what Adobe could be reffering to... I understand that there is support to utilze the 64 bit capabilities to quicken the transcoding process but does anybody know anything about a new Pro Res Codec at 64-bit? Where it is? What it entails?
Anything at all would be awesome. Thanks.
-Dimitri

Hi Dimitri,
It's 64 bit as in it uses a 64 bit process on a Mac. It does not refer to 64 bit depth. The only and main difference is that encoding ProRes is going to be faster now.

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