Pro Tools DAE Questions w/ Logic

1 - Are you able to use instrument tracks when running logic on Pro Tools DAE? When I try to create one in that situation, the option is greyed out.
2 - Is there somewhere in the global preferences in logic where you can set up your i/o? I need to be able to change the output settings manually (for example, as opposed to 1-2 being grouped together always...)
Many thanks to anyone who can shed some light.
Thanks!
Mac OS X (10.4.9)

"Core Audio" Instruments "talk" to DAE thru Direct
TDM,
You need to enable direct TDM for them to work with
DAE....do this in audio hardware...
I don't have DAE system in front of me, if I remember
correctly you make them DTM objects,instead of core
audio objects, (which you set in instrument
parameters).....you set the outputs to DTM outputs,
then you create a aux in DAE which has a DTM input
and a DAE output, which is how you route them into
the DAE....
I may be forgetting something, but this will get you
close..
Okay, cool. I will try that, thank you!
So I need to turn on both DAE & TDM in audio hardware setup?

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Logic Pro and Pro Tools DAE

Hey whats up.
I got Logic Pro, Pro Tools HD2, (2) 96ios, and (2) 1622s.
I have 48 inputs...
I want to be able to use Logic's soft synths and have the outputs go into my Pro Tools Audio Interface.
I was reading the TDM guide and some questions here but I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do.
I go to Audio Hardware and Drivers... but it only shows Core Audio. Not DAE or DTDM. Do I have to install something with my Pro Tools system to make them show up?
Also, Is it possible to have Logic's Soft Syths go directly to Pro Tool's interfaces?
Thanks very much for any help on the matter.
Josh
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)

My system is working fine besides this.
But when I got to Audio Hardware and Drivers I only have a Core Audio tab... Not DAE or DTDM.
I called tech support and they looked on the Pro Tools website. It says:
* Logic Pro 7.2 is supported on Intel-based Mac versions of Pro Tools only via Core Audio at this time.
So this means that I can't output my synth sounds out to separate Pro Tools channels???
I'm ready to give up and wait for an update but can this really be? I have Pro Tools HD2 and a Mac Pro. They are too new??? I hope I'm wrong. What do u think?
Thanks very much.
Josh
As for the Key Commands, it was the next plug-in and I assigned them to + and -.... Thanks guys!
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Can tracks recorded in Pro Tools be moved into Logic?

I'm orchestrating a song for a friend of mine, who recorded vox and a guitar part in PT. How can I move these into the L8 world?

I'm primarily a Logic user, but I do have access to Pro Tools 7.1.1 LE and a Digi 002. Recently my band recorded drums at a studio via Pro Tools 7.1 and the question of how to get these tracks into Logic without having to remap the track positions came up.
There seems to be three viable solutions I have come across:
1. Export to OMF (no automation data, or plugins will be transferred, just the sound of the dry tracks and positions of the tracks)
2. Export to AAF (supposedly the volume automation settings will be transferred as well as the position of the tracks but not plugins)
3. Bounce to individual tracks and remap them into a Pro Tools or Logic session/project.
I for one love the idea of not having to put together all the drum tracks we recorded back into their positions in either Pro Tools or Logic so option 1 & 2 appeal to me. The problem with Pro Tools is you need an add-on called Digitranslator to export files into OMF and AAF files and that runs about $500. Quite ridiculous if you ask me seeing that most other DAWs have this feature built in. If you do have access to Digitranslator I would give that a try before resorting to bouncing all the individual tracks and remapping them into the DAW of your preference.
However, there seems to be problems exporting crossfades between Pro Tools and Logic while using OMF or AAF formats although I don't have first hand experience exporting files with crossfades between the two DAWs yet. I will have to give that a try sometime soon.

Pro tools 7 le or Logic Pro 7 ?

I saw the video of Pro tools 7 le and it does seem to have good midi editing capability. Midi is what I've heard people complain about in Pro tools. What do you think of Pro tools 7 le compared to Logic Pro 7?

I saw the video of Pro tools 7 le and it does seem to
have good midi editing capability. Midi is what I've
heard people complain about in Pro tools. What do you
think of Pro tools 7 le compared to Logic Pro 7?
I'm a former PT user. Here's the comparison between LP and PT. Pro Tools LE is like one of those studios with just a piano and 32 track board and adat. Where Logic Pro is a complete studio with about 6 keyboards and rack modules and effects and a 64 track board.
There's no comparison. Logic's a whole studio where PT LE is basically a mimmic of the tape. Now if you have your own equipment(i.e. third party plug ins and external synths) the PT LE will suffice the rewire setup and midi sync is much better and more stable than LP, but that's all PT Le has over LP.
Logic has taken my music to the next level. Those soft synth plug ins are great. Besides my MPC for drums, I really don't need any other external sounds. I mean you cant compare Logic's synths to PT LE's Reason Adapted and Sample Tank SE.
Pro Tools LE is really not in Logic's class. Some People think LP's a lesser program or in the same class as PT LE because its less expensive. But its really not. What makes PT LE expensive is its hardware that it uses as a XS key. You basically pay for the interface not the program.
You can compare Pro Tools LE to Logic Express. But Pro Tools LE to Logic Pro? C'mon that's like comparing a Pinto to a Lexus.
Oh yeah just look at the price. The only DAW sequencer that rivals LP'S price is Sonar. But Sonar would hit the market at about 800$ then the price would drop to about $500. Logic's hits the market a 1000$ and stays there, demand and customer satisfaction. Its worth way more that 1000$, besides my MPC its the best investment I've made regarding music.
The only thing I miss about PT's is the rewire and bussing. But with all the soft sythns LP has I really don't use Reason that much. I don't really need it.

Pro tools install question..

Hi,
So I have two Hard Drives, one running 10.5.7. and the other one 10.3.9. I still keep the 10.3.9. cause I'm using Pro Tools 6.4 and have a very good setup. The question is that I want to try to install Pro Tools 8 on the Leopard HD but am wondering if it might cause any conflicts with the older version, even if it is on a different HD. I'm worried it might bring some problems and don't want to risk messing up with the config I already have (plugins and all). Does anyone have experience with that? Thanks.
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Learning Pro Tools (as an experienced Logic User)

Hi. For my course and becuase of how industry standard Pro Tools is i want to start learning how to use it.
Has anyone any advice on tutorials or where to start or just any general advice for me?
Thanks, Ben

I'm in the same situation, learning both at the same time because I'm trying to decide which way to go first, and I figure that much of the usage of one is applicable to the other, as far as software goes. In my area (Las Vegas) Tower Records just went out of business and I was able to pick up an excellent book "The Complete Pro Tools Handbook" by Jose Valenzuela... normally $50, I got it for $10. HUGE book, only about a year out of date, really takes you through pro tools from the beginning. Another thing I've found about this book is it really comes from an non-computer audio engineering point of view, takes you through the hardware extensively more so than any other book I've read, and is aimed at audio engineers coming from a non-computer pro background. I'm finding it extremely helpful, because non-computer engineering is all hardware-based. I have a couple of fantastic Logic books as well, but they say NOTHING at all about hardware and hooking stuff up and wading through all the various competing gear to accomplish that. Granted Protools has an advantage in that regard with their own hardware, but I've found reading extensive information about protools hardware and what it does in this book is helping me choose hardware for logic as well!
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Logic with Pro Tools HD upgrade

Hi -
We're using Logic 7.1.1 with a Pro Tools HD system. I'm not at the system right now, but it must be Pro Tools 6.9.x because the machine is running 10.4.5.
When we load large templates with lots of TDM tracks and inputs, Logic quits without any kind of message about 1/3 of the time. The whole machine crashes about every 10th relaunch of Logic. The problem is definitely related to large TDM setups.
My question is: can I expect more stable performance if I upgrade to Logic 7.2 and Pro Tools HD 7 ?
Thanks for any input.

oh yes, on a new Mac Pro...surely, but what are your experiences with these combination?
I´m using 48 Channels I/O with many outboard equipment on a HD 3 Pro Tools DAE ,,, Logic 7 is running and the DAE maschine is working...:))) cool what?
now we must talk about "all native" to use Pro Tools Hardware and Logic 9 because the 2 "Legends" are not able to create a stabile contact since 2004 in DAE mode...
now I`m interested what user, who worked with logic in DAE Mode ....- whats the way?
regards
Chris

Logic Pro 9.1.3 with Pro Tools HD 8.1.1

Hey guys,
I've been reading all day and hoping I could make this happen but I'm losing hope.
I have an Pro Tools HD 2 system with 8.1.1 and Logic Pro 9.1.3 installed on my computer.
I currently have Logic slaved to pro tools but I can only get sound to come out of the built in output of the speakers which I then record it to pro tools on seperate passes. I'm trying to get my logic instruments to go out seperate audio channels and into seperate audio tracks on Pro Tools.
For example, I want a sound from my exs sampler to be monitored through my pro tools channel 1-2 and a sound from ES1 or some synth to be monitored through channels 3-4.
It would just make things sooooo much easier if this could happen! I also have reason 5 rewired to logic which I wanted to go through logic into pro tools on seperate channels as well.
As of now, I'm using all 3 programs but I have to use just one stereo channel in pro tools to monitor both logic and reason!
Is it possible to assign logic to go out different output channels into different pro tools tracks??????
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Avid dropped support for Logic TDM in Pro Tools HD 8.0.3. You need Pro Tools HD 8.0.1 if you want to use Logic with TDM hardware. Pro Tools HD 8.0.1 is qualified up to OS 10.5.8. Anything else is untested.
Logic followed suit by dropping the DAE menu in version 9.1 or later (gleamed from reading these forums), but annoyingly did not mention anything in their release notes. 9.0.2 is the last official mention of TDM support.
You can always use eight channels of Avid hardware with CoreAudio. By using aggregate IO you can do what you need to with eight channels. If you want to use DAE TDM, the only guarantee is PT HD 8.0.1, Logic 9.0.2, OS 10.5.8.

Integrating my Logic tracks with Pro-Tools

I'm involved in arranging/producing a 12-song cd project...all my arrangements are in Logic 8, and they include several instances of EXS24 soft-synths. My small home-studio is not equipped for recording drums so we're going to track drums (& we'll track bass at same time) at a local pro studio which uses Pro-Tools...
...what is the best way to export my tempo-tracks, vocal-work-demos & soft-synth keybd parts to the studio's pro-tools files?...note that some of my tunes incorporate tempo changes.
And what is the best way to bring those drum & bass trax into my Logic?
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now we must talk about "all native" to use Pro Tools Hardware and Logic 9 because the 2 "Legends" are not able to create a stabile contact since 2004 in DAE mode...
now I`m interested what user, who worked with logic in DAE Mode ....- whats the way?
regards
Chris

Importing pro-Tools Commands into Logic

I just started working in Logic today... I mostly work in pro-tools though... anyone know of a place online to find the commands for pro-tools to import into logic? it would help me a lot! Maybe someone already manually did this and can export it to me... Thanks! God bless!

There's one here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ICZrI_BXDw

GB vs. Pro Tools With Mbox or Apogee Duet 2 and Neumann TLM 102

Any guidance on this is greatly appreciated....I am VO artists really being forced into home recording. Can not do a USB Mic into the MBP as the sound is not professional enough. But I do use GB. Based on that, and the fact I only record my voice, I have a series of questions
First question: I'm thinking of getting Apogee Duet 2 as opposed to an Mbox. Any opinion? The Mbox comes with Pro Tools
Second question: Is Pro Tools better software than GB? Remember this is for voice-over work.
Third question: Has anyone out there used either the Apogee Duet 2 or Mbox with a Neumann TLM 102 mic? Do you hear a difference between Apogee Duet 2 and Mbox with the Neumann?
Forth question: If you were in my shoes, and just wanted a super duper VO sound, should I be looking at something other than mBox and Apogee?
Again, to be clear: I'm not recording instruments, so I don't need a lot of bells and whistles...just great, and I mean great sound quality...
Thanks so much
Oh....real important...running OS 10.7.4 if that affects the above... I alos know 10.7.4 is getting upgraded ( spoke to Apple) because of the QT Pro 7 problems, amongst others

Go with the Duet 2, no question. You'll hear the difference...
Pro Tools and GarageBand are both great apps, its really a question of what your'e trying to do with it. Unless there's anything you're trying to do but can't do in GarageBand, there's no real advantage to Pro Tools for what you're doing.
Apogee has always been a "no bells and whistles" company - it simply works and sounds great.
Hope this helps!

This or Pro Tools MP?

This mainly goes out to users of both Pro Tools M-Powered and Logic Express. I'm wanting to upgrade from GB. I'm leaning towards PTMP because it's cheaper and the plug-ins. But I've heard it doesn't work very well with OS X 10.4.9.
I've played around with Logic Express and I like it, but I'm unsure of what kind of plug-ins are available (ie RTAS, VST, AU, et cetera).
There's not much for reviews online, just trying to get a feel for if people prefer one over the other, if so why? Thanks!
iMac (PowerPC) Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hey fan, welcome to the forum.
I am both a PT user and a Logic user. I stay away from PT unless i HAVE to work in it.
In terms of plugins, MPowered doesn't hold a torch to Logic. Logic uses AU plugins. Its included suite of plugins are almost unanimously regarded in the industry to be the best suite of plugins included with a DAW. I don't use PTMP, I use LE, and i've used it extensively and the plugins don't come anywhere near Logic's plugins. The most important plugins in any DAW in my opinion - the EQ's and compressors - Logic's sound warmer and do much more for you sound than any plugins in the included PT suite.
With upgrading plugins, you can get almost any plugin for Logic that you can for PTMP - except RTAS of course, that's pro tools proprietary format. Anything you want in RTAS you can find a comparable (or most of the time, better) or identical version in AU.
The advantage to having PT is that you learn PT. Even then, I would strongly recommend you get a Pro Tools LE system over an MPowered system any day. M-Audio gear is faulty and of poor quality by nature. Most anyone you talk to around here will strongly recommend staying away from M-audio stuff.
So. . . I'd go with Logic Express. . . but if you really want to go the Pro Tools route - go PTLE. . . PLEASE don't go MPowered.

Logic 7.1 and Pro Tools...a few questions...

Hi everyone,
I just have a couple of questions regarding Logic and Pro Tools. My employer has commissioned me to upgrade his studio from Logic 5.0 (mac os version) to the latest version, which is now 7.1.1 (but we may stick with 7.1 just till I'm sure it won't mess up his setup). I thought I'd post just to get a bit of clarification.
Here are the details of his main theatre studio:
Pro Tools 6.4.1
2 x Digidesign 888 I/O Interface
OS X Panther 10.3.5
Dual 1.25 GHz G4
1 Gig DDR SDRAM
I've read and seen a lot of posts regarding big problems running Logic and certain configurations of Pro Tools in conjunction, however until now this has not been a concern for me as my studio is purely based off of core audio Logic 7.1 and Reason 3.03. So here are the main questions I have:
1. How much is the upgrade going to be? Is is just the standard upgrade or is he going to get shafted and have to buy the whole program again (NOTE: he does have the dongle and all the necessary paperwork from Logic 5.0 mac version)
2. Are there known problems with the configuration that I've outlined above, I really don't want to suggest he go ahead and a) upgrade b) buy the the program again if he must, if there is going to be a problem, he predominantly works in Pro Tools and Logic will just be available as an added selling point to his studio, and composition ablity.
Any information about this or clarification would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance,
Graham Campbell
PS - if you need more info to answer don't hesiate to ask.

Hi Justin,
thanks for the advice/info...I got the quote for the upgrade it'll be 435 Canadian after tax (Just curious if we order the upgrade will it upgrade to 7.1? or do we need to get that seperate, I was confused by your wording).
As for the setup my employer hasn't used Logic at all in a professional setting. He had 5.0 Platinum in case any of his clients needed it however that hasn't been the case, he said it was working fine though. As for Pro Tools, his setup the one I mentioned above, has been rock solid all the way up to 10.3.9 (which he has on two of his other editing sweets). So hopefully that will be the case for Logic as well. I've told him that I think he'll need to address the RAM issue as I'm sure he'll be suprise how quick Sculpture etc eat up the RAM.
My main concern was wether running Logic not using the 'built in audio' driver but rather say the Pro Tools interface would be incompatible, hope that makes sense I haven't done any Pro Tools with Logic set ups before so the wording may wrong. Thanks for the reply though, cheers,
Graham

Pro Tools convert to Logic Newbie some simple question for logic users

Hey guys, I am a recent convert from Pro Tools! and There were just some simple questions I thought some of you may be able to help me out with. I am using Logic 9.1.1
1) After I set up a multi timbral software instrument (in this case MOTU Symphonic Library) how do I set up midi channels to trigger the individual sounds in the instrument. (in pro tools I used to create a midi track then send an output of that track to that particular soft synth)
2) How do I set up a and forgive my Pro Tools vocab but basically I want to set up a reverb channel on an aux track have it receive on a bus so I can send other tracks to that particular bus.
Thanks for the insight and really looking forward to finally make use of all this ram! lol

1) I have a nord stage and would like record via midi. In pro tools i would usually need to create a midi track with the output set the the nord and an audo aux track to hear it What would I do in order to record midi from my nord stage?
To record, just select a non-audio track, hit record and play the keyboard. The notes will get recorded into a region.
If you want to play it back to the Nord Stage as well, then it makes sense to set the Nord up as a MIDI device in your templates, so you can just add the Nord to a track and not worry about what MIDI ports it's on etc. Open the environment, create a New -> Instrument, called it "Nord Stage", set the MIDI port and MIDI channels it's on, and sav your template.
Now, when you start a song, to sequence the Nord, you just assign the Nord instrument to a track (by for instance, right clicking on a track and choosing your Nord instrument from the list of environment obects that appears).
2) The multi instrument trick is quick and easy its great but How would I do that manually?
Lots of ways, look into your key commands, ther are all kinds of "Create track with same instrument", "Create track with next MIDI channel" and so on. There are too many ways to do this to quickly talk about here. In short, all tracks have an environment object assigned to them, whether it's an audio object, or a MIDI instrument object, and this determines where the data on the track goes.
3) How do you set up midi so that it doen'ts overwrite notes when recording over them?
Not sure I understand you here...

Yet another Logic Vs.Pro Tools question. Please help!!

Hi guys! I just arrive to the world of mac a few days ago, and I couldn't be happier. Now it's time to purchase new audio gear, and I am torn between Logic Studio/Apogee interface, or the Digi 003. I've been a Sonar user for the past couple of years, and before that I was on Cubase.
I love Sonar, but I'm sick of PC's(hence the switch). I need something with good compositional/midi tools, but I also need powerful audio editing. One thing I love about Sonar is the ability to use non-destructive editing in the arrange window. Can the new logic do this? Currently I am leaning towards logic...but I still haven't made a decision. I definitely need drum programming ability, and I'm not sure if Pro Tools le even has a drum map? Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

servo2112 wrote:
I need something with good compositional/midi tools, but I also need powerful audio editing...non-destructive editing in the arrange window... I definitely need drum programming ability..
Taking just the key points above, Logic will definitely fit the bill better. Logic seems to be a better compositional tool, although PT can also be used for that. Both do SOME non-destructive editing in the arrange windows. Protools has no drum editor at all.
However, PT is still better at audio editing.
It would depend on how much audio editing you plan on doing vs midi/composition.
The above poster is certainly in the ballpark about the add-ons you have to buy with PT just to equal the tools that come with Logic. I would say you'll probably have to spend at least another $1000 on plugin instruments and utility tools (CD burning/mastering) above the cost of PTLE software. Assume you will need at least the Music Production Toolkit in addition to PTLE. You will also want Toast Titanium to burn CDs unless you get Logic w/Waveburner.
The 003 will definitely not sound as good as the Apogee.
I've used PTLE since 1999 and it's great for recording and editing audio, but nothing special for writing and nothing special for midi.

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