Pro Tools to Logic Pro Learning Curve?

I currently use Pro Tools LE 8.0.1 with the original MBox but am about to upgrade my interface and know I have many options. I've been told that I'd get more bang for the buck by getting whichever interface I want and going with Logic Pro instead of PT. From a financial standpoint, that makes sense, since I've seen PT 10 selling for something like $500 or $600. For those of you who've gone from PT to Logic, was it a huge learning curve? Do you prefer it? I do voiceover and simple songwriting "scratch" demos, and that's all - no finals for music and only occasionally, for voiceover. I honestly don't need anything with a million bells and whistles, but want more than Garage Band. What's your take on this?
Thanks,
Annie

The thing that I advise you is to approach to Logic with the "logic of Logic".
Do not make the mistake of trying to do the same things you did on ProTools at the same way you do on ProTools.
Logic is a bomb, deserves to be interpreted in the right way. Once done, you never go back.
Learning curve depend from this.
Tommy

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Hi. I have Pro Tools session in ProTools 6.4.1 and just bought Logic Pro 8. The session in PT was completed (mix, fades, edits) and I want to import the whole session including tracks into Logic. When I did my first attempt, I had to import each track by itself and then try to re-allign/arrange the song. Second and many attempts after, I imported the whole song but it came across as one track. Is there a way to import the whole session in its correct sequence, and track order without having to redo? Iam not so concerend about effects but would like the structure to have the same integrity as when in PT. I am new to Logic and producing my own music so any help would be great. Nothing like trying to piece together 27 tracks all over again. Ahhhhh!

Hi,
I do this regularly. Here's the catch:
IF you want to keep ALL your automation moves, and EQ / effects / etc... on each track as it was in ProTools, then you have to bounce each track individually. The only thing to remember to TURN OFF is global effects like reverbs / delays / etc... which you used on busses. These you'll hopefully replicate in Logic after the move. Or you can even bounce the effects-only as well.
IF you ONLY want the raw tracks, then the best thing to do is to consolidate each track into a new audio file, making sure that you consolidate ALL OF THEM with the same exact start point. Then import into Logic, line them up to the same start point, and Bob's your uncle.
There are two formats that Logic recognizes for importing sessions from other DAW : OMF (ProTools uses this) and AAF (Final Cut Pro uses this)
BUT:
They are not 100% bulletproof. So that's why I gave you a detailed way of doing this. It's more work, but it GUARANTEES that when you open the song in Logic, you're not left wondering about any missing pieces.
Cheers

Pro Tools or Logic

I'm not writing this thread to start a war, its just that I'm having a very hard time deciding between Pro Tools or Logic. I would eventually like to use both, but I can only afford to go with one right now and I really only want to focus my attention on one at this time as well.
Overall, I am really leaning towards Logic with a MOTU interface. However, the more I read the Pro Tools Vs. Logic debate, the more I start to question what to go with. I read so many posts with people bashing Pro Tools, but most people I know use it, most pro studios use it, and most musicians I've researched use it. Logic, on the other hand, seems like a complete package, made more for the creative side of composing/songwriting. I can get an awesome studio set with Logic/MOTU for MUCH less $$ than a Pro tools rig.
However, it seems like going the Pro Tools LE route, Digi 002, (which Is all I can afford at this point), I will be compromising quality overall. The only reason I can see going with Pro Tools is because so many people use it and it would be easy to transfer files with other Pro Tools users. Other than that, I really would like to take the Logic route.
For the record, I play guitar and bass and use drum machines. I would like to start getting more familar with midi and Logic seems like a good program for that.
What do you all think. This decision is really driving me crazy. Thanks.

Jack,
I am a composer who has used Pro Tools since it came out over a decade ago. I have had all kinds of systems, as Digi changed over the years.
I finally ran out of money when HD came out. I could not afford to upgrade my Mix system, yet I wanted to use the most current version of the program, which Mix no longer supported. So I sold it, and got LE and an 002R. I have used this system for over a year. I have done national commercials with it and it has paid for itself many times.
I use a lot of stereo samples. That eats up tracks. The 32 track limit in LE, and the instability of virtual instrument plug ins in LE made me start thinking about Logic. It wasn't the converters in the 002R....they are terrible and you must buy something like an Apogee Mini Me and then it sounds great going in.
But it was a little over a week ago that I bought Logic 7.2. Yesterday, I had a song with 58 tracks playing back just fine on my G5. The virtual instruments work great too. It is a much harder program to use than Pro Tools, but it is much richer and deeper. There are frustrating things about it that make you scratch your head, but these are minor compared to what it gives back to you.
Unless you have over 10 grand to get a REAL Pro Tools system, and then face the fact that it will be replaced by something else in a couple years that will require you to sink thousands more into it, get Logic and take on the learning curve. Pro Tools is best for cutting audio, not dealing with midi and composers. And, I think now that Apple owns it, it will only get better, and probably easier, to work with. Buying into Digi, remember, is buying into a hardware company. They want people to get a "taste" of Pro Tools with LE, and then move up to to HD. They don't understand that most people, with the power of computers today, ain't moving up to a 10 grand system when they can do almost all of that in Logic, or even Digital Performer, Nuendo, etc.
Keep saying this to yourself...."Digidesign is a hardware company. They want and need me to buy HARDWARE to remain in existence. Hardware....hardware...money...more money.
Tom H

Time to switch from Pro Tools to Logic?

The more I work with Final Cut X the more I don't like the Pro Tools interface. I'm repeatedly finding myself automatically using the Final Cut keyboard shortcuts for navigation, and of course they don't work. Is the Logic interface more similar to that of Final Cut X?

boogie457 wrote:
Hey I am have just made the switch from Pro Tools to Logic and was hoping if someone could take the time to help me out with a couple questions! Thanks for you patience
1) For some reason Kore and Motu Symphonic Orchestra aren't showing up in my instruments. When I click and hold the track where I can insert the instrument there is no Motu folder. There is a native instruments folder but kore isn't in there. I've checked both 32bit and 64bit floders for both. How do I get them to show up?
Logic only eats AudioUnits. Are you sure you have the AU versions installed?
2) When I import an Audio File into a logic session i'm getting "Error while trying to synchronize Audio and MIDI. Sample Rate 23938 recognized.Check conflict between Logic Pro and external device" When I playback the imported audio file it sounds terrible it sounds like it plays back at half speed with lots and lots of artifacts. My session setup is at 48K but and so was the audio going in. I wasn't sure what to check for when it was referring to "check conflict between LP and Extern Device"
Check the Audio MIDI Setup utility or the audio interface's own tool and change clock from back and forth from and to what it should be.

Learning Logic Pro 9 - Exploring Logic Pro (Tutorial/Manual)

Logic Pro 9 - Exploring Logic Pro (Tutorial/Manual)
I worked the tutorial through to page 73. While I was working I realized that "Chuck Vox Alt " is the second take in the printed book but in "Exploring Logic Pro Demo Project" ("The Numbers Game") on the screen it is take one (so it is above and not below take 2). And "Chuck Vox TNG" (take 2) is named "Chuck Vox 2" (take 1) in the book! Because of this I can't do the second section of page 73 ("Edit the comp")!
I'm stuck here. Please help me!
Thank you!

Thanks for your answer. Sorry I'm still a beginner with Logic.
I've not spent much time yet - just read the tutorial until p. 73. This is how it looks:
I can't test it out on another sound recording because I don't have another one yet.
How can I create or import one? Thanks again!

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Hey, is it possible to load my Tracks, made by Logic Pro 8, to Logic Pro X ??? Thanks for help

Hey,
is it possible to load my tracks, made by Logic pro 8, to Logic pro X.
Thanks for your help.

Yes, it is possible!
Regards

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I just upgraded from Logic pro 9 to Logic Pro X on my computer, but all my EXS24 libraries are missing all of a sudden. How do i Get them back???
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After Installing Logic Pro X, my Logic Pro 9's 32-bit AUs don't work. The 32-bit bridge doesn't open and run either in my Logic pro 9. My 32-bit AU plugins are crossed out. Help?

After Installing Logic Pro X, my Logic Pro 9's 32-bit AUs don't work. The 32-bit bridge doesn't open and run either in my Logic pro 9. My 32-bit AU plugins are crossed out. Help?

michaelvee wrote:
As an overworked professional, I simply have to consider the very viable options out there. Never thought I'd be seriously considering a Cubase product.
It's a Steinberg product, not a Cubase product.. in case you haven't been paying attention Steinberg developed the virtual instrument for use in it's programs way back in Cubase 3.55.. the plethora of virtual instruments and the advent of low-latency drivers can be directly traced to Steinberg/Cubase development.. Logic also borrowed Cubase's arrange page format back in the 1980's. Cubase has borrowed from Logic to be sure but Steinberg has long been an innovator for many of the things we take for granted today. It was Logic/Emagic who licensed the VST technology and ASIO low latency format to use in Logic 4.xx. It was Apple who adapted VST to it's own AU format. Also, Cubase and Nuendo have undergone a lot more innovation over the past three years, Yamaha has been good as a parent company. Cubase is not Nuendo's little brother by the way, they are very close, same exact audio engine, same robustness, they can exchange files, the only difference being Cubase doesn't have some of the high end post features that Nuendo has. I use both Cubase and Logic and occasionally Nuendo at the University here.. I know both programs fairly well, believe me, both Cubase 6 and 7 can hold their own with any DAW out there, they just don't come with a bunch of ready made loops and preset instruments.
LogicX will never be able to use 32-bit instruments without a third party solution, nor will it ever include the Bridge. At least according to the people I know.

Can you run Logic Pro 8 and Logic Pro X on the same machine?

Hello all!
Congratulations to us on the release of the new Logic Pro!
I am still running Logic Pro 8 (and was waiting for X to come out since I knew it wasn't too far off) but am concerned over the loss of 32-bit plug-ins with Logic Pro X (the wrapping of my old VST plug-ins alone hurts!). I've heard that installing Logic Pro X doesn't in any way gimp Logic Pro 9's usage, but can someone confirm whether or not Logic Pro X and Logic Pro 8 can operate in harmony on the same Mac?
As a bonus, is there any reason to believe that Apple would disable earlier versions of Logic Pro (such as version 8) from running on Mavericks?
I am planning my Logic Pro and Mac OS migrations! Thanks!!

Try here:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/professional_applications/logic_pro
This forum is FCP X.
Al

Pro-tools and Logic

I am looking into getting an Audio Interface. Everybody suggest that i get an Mbox and get into the world of pro-tools because this is the Industry Standard. Logic Pro 7 is my one and only DAW. Still a beginner on this but i am starting to get filmmakers asking for my help.
I am starting to do film music and video/tv jingles. I am sure it's inevitably on some projects that i will mix my own compositions and sound design some indie films. Will M-box 2 work with Logic? Is it inevitable i learn Pro tools as well and do all the mixing here? Thanks

Thanks guys. I think i fairly know logic now and so
do you think it will be easier to learn pro-tools?
It's a different animal. Don't worry about how hard or easy it will be to learn. If you want to learn it, you'll learn it.
iScwartz, very good point... I assume you do
everything in Logic? Also what interface do you use?
Thing is, i only have a G5 imac. So PCI is not for me
at the moment... any suggestions though?
The problem with FW-based interfaces is that some of them suffer from random recording delay offsets (every time you turn on your computer, the offset changes). Do some research here (and elsewhere) to find out which FW-based interfaces do not suffer from this. I'm sure someone will chime in with some info for you.

Pro Tools an Logic at once!

I'm doing a pretty crazy thing I've never heard of before: Logic and Pro Tools on one computer at the same time. Here's how:
Pro Tools M-Powered 7 and Logic 7 both using M-audio 1814
SPDIF in and out connected to each other
2 midi interfaces plugged into each other
Logic slaving to Pro Tools
I route the output of logic to the spif and then make the Input on pro tools spdif.
This is totally working and I can't believe it. Now I can use the creation power of Logic with the audio editing power of Pro Tools and not have to do any crazy things to transfer from one to the other! I'm stoked out of my mind!

Hi Redisred,
Great!!, now I believe you'll want this free little app called "Desktop Manager", since your screen will be cluttered with lots of open windows.
http://desktopmanager.berlios.de/screenshots.php
Click the download tab to d/l it.
I've tried it and it works very nice. It's so easy to switch between the desktop. And it's free...
Regards.
PowerMac G5 Dual 2Ghz || LogicPro 7.1.1 || MOTU 896 || RadikalTechnologies SAC2.2 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Running Pro Tools and Logic Simultaneously

I've been using Logic and Pro Tools together for a while now. I pretty much only use Logic as a Virtual Synth Rack and records the audio into Pro Tools. I use the CoreAudio of my computer with Logic and plug the output of my computer right into the Digi003 rack that I use for Pro Tools. Recently I started running into an issue where I can't use Pro Tools with any other audio/soft synth program. When I do the secondary program starts to make noise as if a MIDI note is being sent to it. It only happens when I have Pro Tools open. It happens when I open Logic, Garagband, MainStage, and any Standalone VSTs. It's frustrating because I'm not able to use Logic the way I used to. Whatever patch I have open, Pro Tools will force it to start playing a low pitch drone which I haven'tbeen able to stop.
I'm currently using Pro Tools LE 8.0.4 and Logic Pro 9.1.5

Logic makes this easy with a command under the File menu to export regions as files (works with midi tracks, too) and another one to export all tracks as audio files (or similar - not at my Mac now).
Once exported, they're easy to import into Protools. This is easier than OMF, but probably not as complete. At least you don't have to buy Digitranslator to do it this way.

Pro Tools sees Logic BWF Timestamp as "Out of Range"

Does anyone know why the timestamps of BWFs bounced from Logic 7 are showing up as "Out of Range" when trying to spot them in Pro Tools??
This has really screwed me over.
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PS -- not all of them. About half. I'm not bouncing them, so I can't say for sure that some circumstance is not changing for the various bounces . . .

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