Pro Tools User Considering Logic Express

Hi Everyone,
I've been a Pro Tools LE user for a number of years. When I read that Avid would be charging $250 for an upgrade to Pro Tools LE 9 (plus $40 for the mandatory iLok) I decided to explore other options.
My main concern is with CPU overload. I recently purchased a new Mac Mini with 8GB RAM, and a Glyph external hard drive. I had hoped that the dreaded Pro Tools 6101 CPU overload errors would be a thing of the past, but even with a much more powerful computer, the errors continued, and most frustrating, there would be no rhyme or reason. I could play a 16-track project with no problems, but it would choke on a file with no more than 7 or 8 tracks. Extremely frustrating when you are losing creative time to constantly troubleshoot.
Are there any former Pro Tools users out there who have had similar issues? Have you had any better luck with Logic?

Hi,
don't know about Pro Tools, but CPU overload usually has to do with a too low buffer setting, and it's the same in Logic. So, in Pro Tools, try to find a preference where you can set the audio buffer to a higher value, and the CPU overloads should be history.
You should not switch DAW's only because of CPU problems. Ask in the PT forum for other solutions. You should only switch if you need the other features of Logic.
Fox

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I've copied above post and corrected confusing language. Sorry I was typing too fast.
Cheers
Dee
Hi
To run RMX multi timbrally in stereo mode:
Go to RMX in the environment. Change the MIDI channel of RMX to "all".
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Hope this helps.
Let me know.
Cheers
Dee

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