Problem #1: Elements Organizer 10 (and before that 9) crash frequently

I'm a long time PSe user (since at least v4). Currently using PSe 10.
I have a decent sized library of images (over 13,000) pretty much all just my digital snapshots.
I moved everything over to a new Win7 PC. Plenty powerful, plenty of storage.
Why I'm importing and organizing photos, PSe seems to crash quite frequently. When I look at the crash details, it is
crashing in BreezeRecognition.dll which web searches seem to indicate is the facial recognition software.
This happens often enough to be really annoying.
Anyone have a clue what might cause this?

No idea why it's crashing, but the obvious workaround is to disable face recognition in the Preferences.
Ken

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[svn] 3789: Integrated Build 192 of what used to be called TCAL (and, before that, Vellum).

Revision: 3789
Author: [email protected]
Date: 2008-10-21 12:55:26 -0700 (Tue, 21 Oct 2008)
Log Message:
Integrated Build 192 of what used to be called TCAL (and, before that, Vellum).
The Text Component ActionScript Library (TCAL) has been renamed to the Text Layout Framework. Its classes are now in the package flashx.textLayout rather than in flashx.tcal, and they are packaged into SWCs named textLayout_xxx.swc rather than tcal_xxx.swc. The XML namespace for importable markup is now "http://ns.adobe.com/textLayout/2008" rather than "http://ns.adobe.com/tcal/2008".
QE Notes: Please update package names (and XML namespaces, if necessary) in all test files.
Doc Notes: Please eliminate all references to "Text Component ActionScript Library" or "TCAL" and use "Text Layout Framework" instead.
Bugs: -
Reviewer: -
Modified Paths:
flex/sdk/trunk/build.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/fxg-manifest.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/mxml-2009-manifest.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/build.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/components/FxTextInput.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/components/TextView.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/components/baseClasses/FxTextBase.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/events/TextOperationEvent.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/graphics/Parser.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/graphics/TextGraphic.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/graphics/graphicsClasses/TextFlowComposer .as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/utils/TextUtil.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/wireframe/build.xml
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flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/textLayout_core.swc
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flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/tcal_conversion.swc
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/tcal_core.swc
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/tcal_edit.swc

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Author: [email protected]
Date: 2008-10-21 12:55:26 -0700 (Tue, 21 Oct 2008)
Log Message:
Integrated Build 192 of what used to be called TCAL (and, before that, Vellum).
The Text Component ActionScript Library (TCAL) has been renamed to the Text Layout Framework. Its classes are now in the package flashx.textLayout rather than in flashx.tcal, and they are packaged into SWCs named textLayout_xxx.swc rather than tcal_xxx.swc. The XML namespace for importable markup is now "http://ns.adobe.com/textLayout/2008" rather than "http://ns.adobe.com/tcal/2008".
QE Notes: Please update package names (and XML namespaces, if necessary) in all test files.
Doc Notes: Please eliminate all references to "Text Component ActionScript Library" or "TCAL" and use "Text Layout Framework" instead.
Bugs: -
Reviewer: -
Modified Paths:
flex/sdk/trunk/build.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/fxg-manifest.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/mxml-2009-manifest.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/build.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/components/FxTextInput.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/components/TextView.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/components/baseClasses/FxTextBase.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/events/TextOperationEvent.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/graphics/Parser.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/graphics/TextGraphic.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/graphics/graphicsClasses/TextFlowComposer .as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/flex4/src/mx/utils/TextUtil.as
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/wireframe/build.xml
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flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/textLayout_conversion.swc
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/textLayout_core.swc
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/textLayout_edit.swc
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flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/tcal_conversion.swc
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/tcal_core.swc
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/libs/tcal_edit.swc

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D: (TSSTcorp DVDWBD BUS: 2 ID: 2 Firmware: SH-B123L)

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I did go back and confirm that I'm running the latest QT for my machine 7.7 (1680.34) according to the QT Player.
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For users of 10.6 and later:
You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation which will give you access to the iPhoto Library from your Services Menu. Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.
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Set Elements as an External Editor in iPhoto: You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Note that iPhoto sends a copy+ of the file to Photoshop, so when you save be sure to use the Save command, not Save As... If you use Save As then you're creating a new file and iPhoto has no way of knowing about this new file. iPhoto is preserving your original anyway.
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TD

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This is directed to the Adobe Developer Team
I hope someone of the Developer team is reading this!!
For my understanding the three products out of one house (PhotoShop Elements Organizer, Bridge and Lightroom) doing about the same, should ...
work the same (same idea, same behaviour, organizing by path/subfolders instead of cataloges etc.)
maintain the same database and files (LR should recognize the collections from BR and Vice Versa, use the same cache files etc.) and should
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Beside that I suggest to get rid of the Catalog idea of Lightroom with it's import/export and synchronization needs and instead use or at least integrate the idea of BRIDGE to get pictures structured and organized by path and subfolders, as this is anyhow how the way pictures are stored already for most of us... I asume. I doubt that anybody just throw all files into one big subdirectory and get the organized into cataloges. But please keep collections as they are helpful to quickly collect some pictures to commonly work on them. by drag & drop. The Catalogues of LR drives me crazy but LR have a lot of nice functions (e.g. Webupload interfaces to flickr and others, nice noice reduction, nice albums and webpage functions, etc.)
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Hi George,
Whereas Bridge and Photoshop Elements (and most non-LR users) base their organisation on the file / folder structure, Lightroom uses files / folders simply for storage - the catalog is used for organisation. This 'catalog based approach' provides far more flexibility, both in organisation, and in recording a complete, fully-reversible record of all edits made to each photograph.
To suggest that Adobe "get rid of the Catalog idea of Lightroom" and "get pictures structured and organized by path and subfolders" would remove almost ALL advantages Lightroom has over Bridge & PS Elements combined. To fully appreciate Lightroom, you need to appreciate that files and folders are not the only way to organise photos. Why not watch a few of the Adobe Lightroom Tutorial videos? This link below takes you to a video explaining about the Catalog;
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/george-jardine-on-lightroom/the-lightroom-catalog/
However, if you really want Adobe to hear your views, why not raise a Feature request with them, at this link below;
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
I'm sure if you call your feature request 'Remove Catalog from Lightroom, and organise by Folders instead', it'll get noticed, as will any forum posts of the same name...
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